Peter Consider a Boom kicker in conjunction with your soft vang as another option. Plan on $300 brand new. On our J-27 I opted for a US Spars rigid vang for $400 new. I gave away my rope vang and blocks (the fiddle block was 1 year old) when I added this. Most of the J27 fleet went with the boomkicker. The US Spars vang includes line and blocks attached to vang. After the first year I decided I did not like this arrangement and added a rope vang with new blocks in addition to the rigid vang and was happy with that. Took the price up close to $200. I likely should have gone with the boomkicker.
The C&C 27 is a fairly small boat with a much smaller sail plan that the J27 and of course much smaller than C&C 30. The arrangements described above would work well on your 27. The only thing I was less satisfied with on the US Spars rigid vang was the boom attachment which is a bit lighter weight than I would like. However again the C&C 27 has a smaller sail plan and less pressures than the J27. Unfortunately I do not have pictures. The weakness of the boom end attachment for the US Spars vang was that it only had 2 rivets and with the blocks on the rigid vang itself there was tremendous pressure on those rivets when vang on tight. With the rigid vang being used for upward pressure and a traditional rope and block vang for downward pressure and attached at the bail on the boom as designed this pressure is gone. I do hope this helps. A $1200 rigid vang is very much overkill on a 27. Buy something new for $400 or less Mike Persistence Frers 33 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang An update The seller posted up a price ... $400 !!! I discussed it with him, armed with the info provided via this forum (especially Dennis ... thanks) and offered $150. He had a mild heart attack and went away ... came back later at $200. I went to look at the boom vang and it was missing the 3 “external” blocks + one of the sheaves was broken on the vang itself (not exactly the “excellent” condition that was described in the ad!) The seller swore up and down that there never were any blocks with it and that he had paid $1200 for it in 2005 and that it wasn’t a Garhauer. Well it definitely is an older model RV20-1 model. 2-inch diameter tube and the length (uncompressed) is the same as the length of my current (soft) vang. I think there is a good possibility that the boom plate would fit my boom ... not so sure on the mast plate since the C&C 30 mast is wider and the 27 has the sail groove that stands proud from the mast. However I had checked with Garhauer who said: 1) shouldn’t be any problems with spring tension between a 27 and a 30’'; and 2) new mast and boom plates would be $80 (US) or $40 each ... if only one is needed. Regardless .... I walked away, considering the missing blocks and broken sheave. Well today the seller phoned me back ... he’s found the blocks and put the boom vang up for consignment at a local store. Not sure what they are asking at this point. Question I have is after checking this thing out it seems to me to be probably 1 size larger than what is really needed and would work best for the C&C 27. Just checking out the differences between 27 booms and 30 booms in the marina ... the 30’s boom is much larger. The RV20-1 is meant for 28 – 44ft boat (as is the current RV20-1 SL model). I’m thinking a RV6 (aluminum, up to 32ft boat) or RV18-1 (28-36ft boat with a tube diameter 1-3/4") would be a better fit. So I think I’ve effectively talked myself out of this particular unit. Anyone out there with a C&C 27 recall what model they are using? Any experience with the aluminum vs. the stainless versions? By the way, Garhauer has a 10% off sale right now till the end of March ... softens the blow a wee bit! Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Dennis C.<mailto:capt...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 11:44 AM To: Peter Fell<mailto:prf...@gmail.com> ; CnClist<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang I sell lots of used boat stuff on eBay. I find 25-30% of new is common for marine items in very good condition. Items in excellent to new condition might fetch 50%+ of new. Remember to make a $$ adjustment for the brackets. You may need to have Garhauer make you new brackets. That shouldn't cost much. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Thanks ... current model pricing is $495 (US), I highly doubt that would apply to a 10+ year old boom vang. Hard to determine a used value .... not something that comes up for sale very often as far as I can see so that’s why I’m asking. From: RAYMOND SHIBE<mailto:rsh...@optonline.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:40 AM To: Peter Fell<mailto:prf...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang Call Garhauer or go on their website for pricing. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 04:56 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List wrote: I’m talking to a fellow here that has a Garhauer rigid vang for sale, from a C&C 30. Matching it up to info online I think it’s a RV20-1 ... an older model, not the current one. I’m trying to get more specifics on this actual unit, but I’ve seen references online dated 2002 and 2006, so it’s at least in that age range. I realize there may have to be some mods to adapt the boom and mast tangs to the 27’s mast. Anyone got any clue what the boom vang might be worth? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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