Russ, So calling a halyard an "uppy downy" line and a sheet an "inny outy" line doesn't work? :)
Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Rob, > > I can understand your confusion with a term you are comfortable using as > it was provided by a rigger you trust. My intention is not to belittle you > or anybody else but to point out to everybody when I see little things > start to get outta place. My assumed role is to nudge them back to goodness > again. > You might have noticed I deleted all reference to you in my reply to -> > terms. > > But seriously... providing copy from a mega-store discount website is not > the best tactic to dissuade me.. This is precisely how terms get misused > and into the mainstream in the first place. > > If these guys used tie-bar instead of throughbolt & compression tubes > (check the flange bushings for repair) : > http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm > > Or this British guy who is still using looped eyes and admonishing his > peers for worrying if an unshouldered mast band is even practical. He > references the late great Herreshof on the wonders of through-bolting. > http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF > > Then I might call, "Uncle!" > > My references are mostly on paper, like a library, and include favourites > such as Bruce Bingham, Bob Perry & Brion Toss. I'm slowly catching up on > Ted Brewer's works since he moved to a nearby island. > > I have a story with a trusted rigger to share. > When replacing the gang on *Sweet*, we got the cap shrouds & forestay > done (with Harken furler rehab) and set about to do the lowers. Oops, his > stock didn't have the correct size. "No problem." he says, "I'll upgrade > you, up one size at no cost." > "No thanks." says I, "When will the right size be here?" > > You see, a rigging wire too big is no better than a rigging wire too small > and my trusted professional couldn't see that because he works for a living > and in this case it probably would not have made any difference and most > customers would appreciate getting a more expensive product for the same > price even if it didn't do the job as well. > Humans are kinda funny in a way. > > That's probably enough for now, unless someone wishes to get me started on > the oxymoron cutter-ketch. > > Cheers, Russ > *Sweet *35 mk-1 > Vancouver Island > > > At 07:06 PM 14/05/2015, you wrote: > > Russ: > I too like to use the appropriate nautical term. When we put the > standing rigging together for the first time after purchasing the boat, we > discovered the top 'aluminum 'through-bolt, 'stud' or 'tie bar' as the > rigger from North Sails called it was approx. half worn through by the wire > from the main halyard. > > This yacht shop in the below website advertises what we are talking about > as a 'TIE BAR' and "threaded at 12mm at both ends"....pic is not of a 'tie > bar' obviously. > > http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm > > And yes, we have the compression tube inside the mast .....we used the > original one with a new SS piece of metal, whatever it is called, to hold > the tangs together. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S > > > > On 2015-05-14 3:01 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote: > > > A little term bitchin' here. > > The threaded thingy that goes inside the mast to hold the tangs tight is a > called through-bolt (even though in most cases it is a stud) not a tie-bar. > And it goes inside a compression tube so it can be properly tightened > without deflecting the mast sides towards each other. The compression tube > was especially important in wooden masts to prevent movement and elongation > of holes. > > I may be pissin in the wind here and I concede most people use the term > salon instead of saloon, but I endeavour to preserve to use of as many > other old terms as I can. > > Cheers, Russ > *Sweet *35 mk-1 > Vancouver Island > > > At 07:24 AM 14/05/2015, you wrote: > > Mike et al: > > ....the most difficult one is getting the cap shroud in its tang and then > screw the tang into the tie bar inside the mast.....the shroud and the tang > have to rotate as one. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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