Yeah, and you have to use the colour it is.
As in, pull the red "inny outy" on the left side.
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
At 05:50 AM 15/05/2015, you wrote:
Russ,
So calling a halyard an "uppy downy" line and a
sheet an "inny outy" line doesn't work? :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Russ & Melody
via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Rob,Â
I can understand your confusion with a term you
are comfortable using as it was provided by a
rigger you trust. My intention is not to
belittle you or anybody else but to point out to
everybody when I see little things start to get
outta place. My assumed role is to nudge them back to goodness again.
You might have noticed I deleted all reference to you in my reply to -> terms.
But seriously... providing copy from a
mega-store discount website is not the best
tactic to dissuade me.. This is precisely how
terms get misused and into the mainstream in the first place.
If these guys used tie-bar instead of
throughbolt & compression tubes (check the flange bushings for repair) :
<http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm>http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm
Or this British guy who is still using looped
eyes and admonishing his peers for worrying if
an unshouldered mast band is even practical. He
references the late great Herreshof on the wonders of through-bolting.
<http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF>http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF
Then I might call, "Uncle!"Â
My references are mostly on paper, like a
library, and include favourites such as Bruce
Bingham, Bob Perry & Brion Toss. I'm slowly
catching up on Ted Brewer's works since he moved to a nearby island.
I have a story with a trusted rigger to share.
When replacing the gang on Sweet, we got the cap
shrouds & forestay done (with Harken furler
rehab) and set about to do the lowers. Oops, his
stock didn't have the correct size. "No
problem." he says, "I'll upgrade you, up one size at no cost."
"No thanks." says I, "When will the right size be here?"
You see, a rigging wire too big is no better
than a rigging wire too small and my trusted
professional couldn't see that because he works
for a living and in this case it probably would
not have made any difference and most customers
would appreciate getting a more expensive
product for the same price even if it didn't do the job as well.
Humans are kinda funny in a way.
That's probably enough for now, unless someone
wishes to get me started on the oxymoron cutter-ketch.
        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1
        Vancouver Island
At 07:06 PM 14/05/2015, you wrote:
Russ:
I too like to use the appropriate nautical
term.  When we put the standing rigging
together for the first time after purchasing
the boat, we discovered the top 'aluminum
'through-bolt, 'stud' or 'tie bar' as the
rigger from North Sails called it was approx.
half worn through by the wire from the main halyard.
This yacht shop in the below website advertises
what we are talking about as a 'TIE BAR' and
"threaded at 12mm at both ends"....pic is not of a 'tie bar' obviously.
<http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm>http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm
And yes, we have the compression tube inside
the mast .....we used the original one with a
new SS piece of metal, whatever it is called, to hold the tangs together.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S
On 2015-05-14 3:01 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote:
A little term bitchin' here.
The threaded thingy that goes inside the mast
to hold the tangs tight is a called
through-bolt (even though in most cases it is
a stud) not a tie-bar. And it goes inside a
compression tube so it can be properly
tightened without deflecting the mast sides
towards each other. The compression tube was
especially important in wooden masts to
prevent movement and elongation of holes.
I may be pissin in the wind here and I concede
most people use the term salon instead of
saloon, but I endeavour to preserve to use of as many other old terms as I can.
        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1
        Vancouver Island
At 07:24 AM 14/05/2015, you wrote:
Mike et al:
....the most difficult one is getting the cap
shroud in its tang and then screw the tang
into the tie bar inside the mast.....the
shroud and the tang have to rotate as one.Â
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