Dennis, This made a laugh of the day for me. Do you have any more of those? Love this list!
Marek C320 in Hamilton On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Russ, > > So calling a halyard an "uppy downy" line and a sheet an "inny outy" line > doesn't work? :) > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Rob, >> >> I can understand your confusion with a term you are comfortable using as >> it was provided by a rigger you trust. My intention is not to belittle you >> or anybody else but to point out to everybody when I see little things >> start to get outta place. My assumed role is to nudge them back to goodness >> again. >> You might have noticed I deleted all reference to you in my reply to -> >> terms. >> >> But seriously... providing copy from a mega-store discount website is not >> the best tactic to dissuade me.. This is precisely how terms get misused >> and into the mainstream in the first place. >> >> If these guys used tie-bar instead of throughbolt & compression tubes >> (check the flange bushings for repair) : >> http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm >> >> Or this British guy who is still using looped eyes and admonishing his >> peers for worrying if an unshouldered mast band is even practical. He >> references the late great Herreshof on the wonders of through-bolting. >> http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF >> >> Then I might call, "Uncle!" >> >> My references are mostly on paper, like a library, and include favourites >> such as Bruce Bingham, Bob Perry & Brion Toss. I'm slowly catching up on >> Ted Brewer's works since he moved to a nearby island. >> >> I have a story with a trusted rigger to share. >> When replacing the gang on *Sweet*, we got the cap shrouds & forestay >> done (with Harken furler rehab) and set about to do the lowers. Oops, his >> stock didn't have the correct size. "No problem." he says, "I'll upgrade >> you, up one size at no cost." >> "No thanks." says I, "When will the right size be here?" >> >> You see, a rigging wire too big is no better than a rigging wire too >> small and my trusted professional couldn't see that because he works for a >> living and in this case it probably would not have made any difference and >> most customers would appreciate getting a more expensive product for the >> same price even if it didn't do the job as well. >> Humans are kinda funny in a way. >> >> That's probably enough for now, unless someone wishes to get me started >> on the oxymoron cutter-ketch. >> >> Cheers, Russ >> *Sweet *35 mk-1 >> Vancouver Island >> >> >> At 07:06 PM 14/05/2015, you wrote: >> >> Russ: >> I too like to use the appropriate nautical term. When we put the >> standing rigging together for the first time after purchasing the boat, we >> discovered the top 'aluminum 'through-bolt, 'stud' or 'tie bar' as the >> rigger from North Sails called it was approx. half worn through by the wire >> from the main halyard. >> >> This yacht shop in the below website advertises what we are talking about >> as a 'TIE BAR' and "threaded at 12mm at both ends"....pic is not of a 'tie >> bar' obviously. >> >> http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm >> >> And yes, we have the compression tube inside the mast .....we used the >> original one with a new SS piece of metal, whatever it is called, to hold >> the tangs together. >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S >> >> >> >> On 2015-05-14 3:01 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote: >> >> >> A little term bitchin' here. >> >> The threaded thingy that goes inside the mast to hold the tangs tight is >> a called through-bolt (even though in most cases it is a stud) not a >> tie-bar. And it goes inside a compression tube so it can be properly >> tightened without deflecting the mast sides towards each other. The >> compression tube was especially important in wooden masts to prevent >> movement and elongation of holes. >> >> I may be pissin in the wind here and I concede most people use the term >> salon instead of saloon, but I endeavour to preserve to use of as many >> other old terms as I can. >> >> Cheers, Russ >> *Sweet *35 mk-1 >> Vancouver Island >> >> >> At 07:24 AM 14/05/2015, you wrote: >> >> Mike et al: >> >> ....the most difficult one is getting the cap shroud in its tang and then >> screw the tang into the tie bar inside the mast.....the shroud and the tang >> have to rotate as one. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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