Persistence came with B&G H1000 instruments.  Wind, Speed and depth.  They were 
functioning.

However.  The displays were losing what I call raster lines and were dim and 
difficult to read at night unless looking straight on.  I wished to purchase 
newer displays.  With B&G the newer models are not compatible with the older 
ones.  This seems to be a common thread with B&G and on top of that they are 
expensive.

We use Raymarine on the boat we typically race (a C&C 115).  They work very 
well with the only issue being the wiring clips on the backs of the instruments 
which need replacing frequently.  The same Raymarine instruments are on our 
friends C&C 99 on which we frequently sail.  Again they worked flawlessly.  On 
our previous boat the J27 Nut Case we also had Raymarine (actually one of the 
instruments was Raytheon).  ST60 on all of the boats.  Previous to that we had 
ST40 on our Niagara 26 – both the bidata and the wind.  In all cases the 
instruments were robust, easy to read and easy to use.  The instruments that I 
refer to are the Speed, Depth and wind.    On Persistence we have also the 
Raymarine ST6002 autopilot.  All work very well and there is a nice level of 
crossover support between the Raymarine products of different years.  Not so 
much with B&G

We decided to replace the B&G Speed depth and wind with Raymarine i50 & i60.  
Again they are easy to use and easy to read.  I liked the robust look and feel 
of the ST60 series better particularly how they screw on to bulkhead or 
instrument cluster.  This is IMO a major FAIL on the newer Raymarine but that 
is the only one.  The B&G that these replaced is now on a C&C 33-2.  Literally 
on a shelf in a box I believe.  I am sure that Greg reads this list so he may 
chime in at some point

These are only my opinions.  Raymarine to me is great.  B&G more expensive and 
less compatible across model lines and model years

Mike
Persistence
Halifax


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:12 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?

I've installed B&G on a couple boats and they seem to work fine.

I have Nexus (NX2) instruments on Touche' and love them.  I like the easily 
customized multidisplays.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now 
too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind 
instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working).

Anyone have experience with B&G? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am 
looking at the B&G Triton T41.  For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen 
that can connect to speed, depth and wind.

I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions 
and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech 
support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me 
an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for 
each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and 
info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked 
directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls "smart 
transducers"). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate 
thruhulls.

So, B&G yay or nay?

-Patrick
C&C 38 LF "Violet Hour"
Seattle, WA


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