I fitted them to my 24 and they worked fine, were a struggle to get on but that 
meant they never slipped. 
Cheers
Paul

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:08:15 -0300
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: rtaill...@eastlink.ca

I have them on my 25 and they work great.  They came on a pair of Barient 18s 
that I traded for another pair of winches I had  and some splicing jobs.I don’t 
know what size they are but they almost look a size too small for the winches, 
maybe that’s why I haven’t had the slippage problems that some people have had. 
 There is no way I could get my normal sheets in the outer groove but my light 
air ones do fit.  I use 5/16” sheets and the key is to get three full wraps on 
the winch then grind it in to jam the top wrap against the bottom of the 
Wincher, if I don’t do that the sheet will back off.  I like them because you 
can take in the majority of the sheet before the load comes on then put on the 
third wrap and finish trimming in the sail with one hand, great for single 
handed sailing.  I still have to deal with the sheet as it comes off the winch 
but I can crank it in a couple turns before it gets around to the front of the 
winch, if you have someone to tail this is a non-issue.  Rick 
TaillieuNemesis'75 C&C 25  #371Shearwater Yacht ClubHalifax, NS.   From: 
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via 
CnC-List
Sent: September-07-15 19:16
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Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's I had them on my C&C 24 and I could not 
make them to work. I removed them.  But ymmv.  Marek    Sent from my Samsung 
device over Bell's LTE network.

-------- Original message --------
From: David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 2015-09-07 18:07 (GMT-05:00) 
To: CnC CnC discussion list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's 

What about $50 for Winchers 
(http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C118%7C2358547%7C2358555&id=899493)?
  I am considering trying one for one of my cabin top small secondaries.  I 
have read that they work.  Dave Aries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT
 On Sep 7, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote: Pairs of used self tailers on eBay go for $1000-1800 depending on size.  
(There's a pair of 60 ST's out there now for $1700.)  

Winchmates are ~$550 each.  That's $1100 a pair.Good used non-self tailers sell 
for $300-800 on eBay depending on size and condition.  I upgraded Touche's 
primary, secondary and cabin top winches from alloy to chrome bronze.  Net cost 
for 2 Barlow 28's, 2 Barlow 26's and 2 stainless Barient 22's (all used non 
ST's) was around $600.  Paid $1100 for the "new" ones and sold two pairs of the 
old ones on eBay for $500 and tossed a pair of 28's in the dumpster. Just 
saying....Dennis C.  On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Harry Hallgring via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Bill,Yes, that is probably what I will 
do for my primaries. HarrySent from my iPad
On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:These? http://www.winchmate.com/store.html   Bill ColemanC&C 39  
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