The self tailing version of a Barient 18 is a Barient 19, and I would like to 
find them too. 
They are a very useful size, in high demand, and don't come up for sale very 
often.

Steve Thomas 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Kevin Driscoll 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:09
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's


  I am still looking for a Barient 18 self tailer or similar, if anyone knows 
of one.

  Kevin



  On Tue, Sep 8, 2015, 6:02 PM Paul Baker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

    I fitted them to my 24 and they worked fine, were a struggle to get on but 
that meant they never slipped. 
    Cheers
    Paul


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    Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:08:15 -0300

    Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's

    From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    CC: rtaill...@eastlink.ca



    I have them on my 25 and they work great.  They came on a pair of Barient 
18s that I traded for another pair of winches I had  and some splicing jobs.

    I don’t know what size they are but they almost look a size too small for 
the winches, maybe that’s why I haven’t had the slippage problems that some 
people have had.  There is no way I could get my normal sheets in the outer 
groove but my light air ones do fit.  I use 5/16” sheets and the key is to get 
three full wraps on the winch then grind it in to jam the top wrap against the 
bottom of the Wincher, if I don’t do that the sheet will back off.  I like them 
because you can take in the majority of the sheet before the load comes on then 
put on the third wrap and finish trimming in the sail with one hand, great for 
single handed sailing.  I still have to deal with the sheet as it comes off the 
winch but I can crank it in a couple turns before it gets around to the front 
of the winch, if you have someone to tail this is a non-issue.





    Rick Taillieu

    Nemesis

    '75 C&C 25  #371

    Shearwater Yacht Club

    Halifax, NS.







    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
    Sent: September-07-15 19:16
    To: C&C List
    Cc: Marek Dziedzic
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's



    I had them on my C&C 24 and I could not make them to work. I removed them. 



    But ymmv. 



    Marek 







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    -------- Original message --------
    From: David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
    Date: 2015-09-07 18:07 (GMT-05:00) 
    To: CnC CnC discussion list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
    Cc: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> 
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient ST 32's 

    What about $50 for Winchers 
(http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C118%7C2358547%7C2358555&id=899493)?
  I am considering trying one for one of my cabin top small secondaries.  I 
have read that they work.  Dave



    Aries

    1990 C&C 34+

    New London, CT






      On Sep 7, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



      Pairs of used self tailers on eBay go for $1000-1800 depending on size.  
(There's a pair of 60 ST's out there now for $1700.)  

      Winchmates are ~$550 each.  That's $1100 a pair.

      Good used non-self tailers sell for $300-800 on eBay depending on size 
and condition.  

      I upgraded Touche's primary, secondary and cabin top winches from alloy 
to chrome bronze.  Net cost for 2 Barlow 28's, 2 Barlow 26's and 2 stainless 
Barient 22's (all used non ST's) was around $600.  Paid $1100 for the "new" 
ones and sold two pairs of the old ones on eBay for $500 and tossed a pair of 
28's in the dumpster.



      Just saying....

      Dennis C. 



      On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

      Bill,

      Yes, that is probably what I will do for my primaries. 

      Harry

      Sent from my iPad


      On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

        These?



        http://www.winchmate.com/store.html







        Bill Coleman

        C&C 39






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