Rings are what came on mine and I've seen on others. Folks on this list have shared that they used plastic tie-wraps for years with no problems. I noticed that some of my rings work themselves off so I used neon tie-wraps to hold my rings tight. The neon makes it easier to notice when one goes missing. They also make pin-wraps that have a pin and a velcro strap. The pin goes in and the velcro ensures that it stays... And doesn't catch on your sails or sheets.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 27, 2015 10:12 PM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I saw a boat recently which had large cotter rings through the turnbuckles > instead of cotter pins. This looked like a great idea to me as I sometimes > find it difficult to get bent cotter pins back out of the turnbuckles. Any > down side of using rings instead of pins? Dave > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:07 PM, David Paine via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Answers for Patrick: >> >> > 3) >> Is the exhaust hose looped up? Yes but not enough. Usually there is a >> flapper valve on the exhaust but the reverse transom angle and the angled >> cut of the exhaust make commercial ones unusable. >> >> 4) Does your fuel tank vent line not have a check valve in it? (1-way >> valve to allow air egress but prevent water ingress) Or was the check >> valve not working? >> > > No check valve and in any case, a check valve allows flow of air or water > in only one direction. If it were put in correctly the fuel couldn't get > out but displacement air and water could. > >> >> 9) What do you mean by "wire" a turnbuckle? Did your turnbuckles not >> have cotter pins in them on the upper stays? (Is running without pins >> actually something people do??) >> > > Heck yeah, who uses cotter pins? I use stainless steel wire through the > hole in both screws and through the body of the turnbuckle.. Cheap and > easy. > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:51 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Paine <paineda...@gmail.com> >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: >>> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:50:37 -0400 >>> Subject: Stus-List Bermuda1-2 lessons learned >>> Hi All, >>> >>> As I mentioned last spring as part of a question about life rafts, I had >>> planned to sail my C&C33-1 solo to Bermuda and back (double handed) in >>> the Bermuda1-2 race. I did, It was fun, it was terrifying, it was >>> expensive to prepare for, and it was frustrating as I did not do well (dfl) >>> in my class in part because of the high winds and seas near the gulf stream >>> probably favored the HR49 and other heavyweights in my class but mostly >>> because I was climbing a steep learning curve. Of course, a C&C35-1 won >>> the return and did well on the way there so (in my case) it's the sailor >>> not the boat. In preparation for the next one, I need to resolve a few >>> issues with the boat and a lot with the skipper. I was putting together a >>> list that I thought I would share. >>> >>> (1) The autopilot has to be more than bullet proof. I thought my >>> below deck pilot was, but I was wrong, and as a result I found myself >>> upside down in the cockpit locker and crawling deep underneath the cockpit >>> floor in horrible conditions to tighten bolts that allowed the tiller arm >>> to slip (no woodruff key or slot to put it in). I lost a lot of time >>> bobbing around with the sails down repairing the autopilot or sleeping. >>> The fix for this one is obvious but will require dismantling the quadrant >>> and figuring out how to bolt the tiller arm to it. Other issues with the >>> autopilot were completely my own fault as I made changes to the electronics >>> but did not have time to proof test the changes. >>> >>> (2) When a wave fills the cockpit and it gets flooded (and it did >>> repeatedly) the engine instruments are going to get wet. This is not good >>> as the switches will (and did) fail, I am considering relocation or >>> creating a waterproof cover. >>> >>> (3) Following seas WILL drive water up the tailpipe and into the >>> engine. As a result, I sailed into St Georges harbor and up to the customs >>> dock then I spent a day in Bermuda sucking water out of the engine and >>> drying it out enough to get it started. For the return trip, I put a plug >>> in the exhaust pipe but the plug was washed out in the "washing machine >>> like conditions" and ... we got to sail the boat into the Newport Yacht >>> Club dock at 3:00 am on no sleep. Then spend another day pumping oily >>> water out of the engine. Yeah, slow learner. >>> >>> (4) The fuel tank vent on my boat is high up on the starboard side but >>> by the time I got to Bermuda, the tank had a quart of water in it (which I >>> siphoned out). Good filters (a racor) helped but I need to relocate the >>> vent -- the question is where? It may not be wise but on the return trip I >>> wrapped the vent with tape (which, if I had run the engine I would have >>> removed) A better solution is needed. >>> >>> (5) Reefing has to be quick and easy -- I spent far too much time >>> screwing up enough courage to go to the mast to reef and shake-out. My >>> current reefing system (probably original to the boat) has a winch on the >>> boom which makes the first reef fine but I used all three reef points and >>> releasing the last reef before pulling in the next in 35-40 kn of breeze is >>> a nightmare. I need to work on leading the lines to the cockpit. >>> >>> (6) A removable inner forestay and a blade foresail might be nice. My >>> new furling 130 spent a lot of time furled 50% and that really has screwed >>> up the shape of my formerly new and now blown out 130. >>> >>> (7) The boat was reasonably dry inside (a result of hours of rebedding >>> hardware) but somehow the mast collar leaked like a sieve. The boot looks >>> perfect so it has to be the where the Al collar (mast partners) meets the >>> deck -- who would have thought that the one place I didn't rebed would be a >>> problem! >>> >>> (8) Hoisting a radar reflect on a flag halyard to the spreaders seems >>> like a good idea until the line breaks and you lose both. >>> >>> (9) The one turnbuckle that I did not wire was the port diamond stay. >>> Turns out the mast will stay up without this - whew! It is extremely >>> unnerving to see a piece of wire swinging around at night in a blow. Wire >>> everything. And use lock tight on critical bolts -- my solar panel broke >>> loose as a result of a bolt getting unscrewed. >>> >>> (10) Fighting with a 10 foot long spinnaker pole to fly the spin gets >>> really old. Luckily the wind only died down enough to fly the spinnaker at >>> the end of the race but if the conditions had been more benign, I would >>> have had to fly the spinnaker much more. An assymetrical with a short >>> prod would be nice (but probably outside my ability to rationalize the >>> spending). >>> >>> (11) Getting a decent weather (GRIB) file occasionally would have been >>> really helpful. I suppose I need to figure out how to do a SSB or Sat >>> phone modem. >>> >>> Tons more lessons learned but that's enough for now. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> David >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > Dr. David Knecht > Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology > Core Microscopy Facility Director > University of Connecticut > 91 N. Eagleville Rd. > Storrs, CT 06269 > 860-486-2200 > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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