Thanks Guys,
 
I was thinking mast mount mostly to keep it away from passengers and crew, 
however I can see it as a possible pest on the mast as well.....
 
I still have some time since we are wrapped up and on land....I really 
appreciate the input
 
Mike
 
 
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A couple of comments on radar: a mast-mounted radar will “see” vessels further 
away, including over the horizon compared to deck-level.  But as Chuck 
mentioned, it will not see things in the water closer to the boat, as there’s 
about a 12.5° vertical beam width above/below horizontal on most marine radars; 
so as a target gets within several dozen yards of the radar, it’ll be too low 
to be picked up.  Using a stern pole can help with this close-in imaging of 
targets; but you lose the distant ability of having the dome up high.


There is also a danger with stern pole mounting of having the radar beam hit 
deck crew; stand too close to a high-power radar beam, and you can develop some 
nasty medical issues like vision loss.  This is an issue I have with power 
boaters who mount the dome right on their hard top (usually a large open 
array…), then come into the dock on a clear sunny day with the radar merrily 
turning away.  The beam is pretty much at head-height for anyone standing on 
the dock, and it’s pretty easy to get a nice face full of microwave radiation 
at close range.


Chuck — as far as NME0183 vs NMEA2000 on the Raymarine a, c, e, and eS Series 
MFDs, ALL of them support NMEA2000.  See page 51 of the a-c-e Installation 
Manual.  The smallest versions of the a and c Series DO NOT have NMEA0183 
connections on them at all.


— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



On Dec 29, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Mike,
My experience with mast mounted radar is not favorable.  Close in targets tend 
to drop off (such as small boats and channel markers in the fog) as the radar 
tends to see above those objects.  The mast mount is also hell on an 
overlapping jib..
Chuck Gilchrest

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On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Headgorilla via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:



Thanks for discussing the Raymarine equipment, I am going into the NY boat show 
next week to see my electronics people and probably but a package due to all 
the rebates and discounts they offer, so I appreciate your experience on this 
subject....I am listening.
 
One Question: where the best spot to mount the Radar antenna, on the Mast? or 
off a pole on the stern?
 
Mike Dolan
1979 34' C&C "Skywalker"
Southold, NY
 
 
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I believe the C series units also rely on NMEA 0183 networking language where 
A, E series and newer will be NMEA 2000 and can network more readily with 
peripherals such as wind, speed, depth, and autopilot.  I’d check to see what’s 
on your boat with regards to the peripherals and that may make a difference in 
your decision making process.  Don’t try to mix and match instrument brands or 
operating language otherwise you will spend all your sailing time trying to 
make the instruments talk to each other and at best, functionality will be 
limited.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1975 25 Mk 1
 
S/V Orion
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA
 

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Sure!  The eS Series is the newest MFD from Raymarine, and is basically an 
updated, more powerful version of the e Series, with both touchscreen and hard 
controls.  I would definitely recommend the eS over the e if you’re looking to 
buy today, particularly at the 7” size where there’s not much difference at all 
in price.

 

The Raymarine c Series has NO touchscreen capability whatsoever; just buttons.  
I’d put it at the bottom of the heap in terms of power and functionality.

 

How’s that?   :^)

 

Happy New Year, all!

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 


On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Fred, thank you for that summary - I've been trying to work out what the 
differences between the Raymarine models amount to in the real world.  Would 
you care to expand your descriptions to include the "c" and "es" ranges too?

 

Thanks!

 

Tim


 


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