Thanks Gary, this is very helpful. Couple details about my boat that affect crew positions / responsibilities: tiller steering, traveler aft on transom, halyards not led aft, no headsail furler.
So the full complement would be driver, mainsail trimmer, two headsail trimmers, mast person, and bow person. If shorthanded the driver could trim the main, and the bow person could double as a headsail trimmer. But probably need four minimum (driver, trimmer, mast, bow) to fly the chute, and more is better as the air gets heavier. Thanks for the tip about the barber hauler on reaches. My boat has a very short (two feet) aluminum pole with jaws on each end like a spin pole - I wonder if that's what it's for. After getting your comments, and Mike's (Persistence, Halifax), I'll probably race in B division (JAM) in the spring series so my crew and I can get used to the boat and practice with the spinnaker outside of racing, then switch to A division (spinnaker) for the summer series. Much appreciated. Cheers, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:20:13 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing a 30-1 I’ll try to answer your questions, but the 30 is somewhat unique. I say this from owning and racing mine for over 20 years. I have raced both spinnaker and non-spinnaker and picked up my fair share of trophies in each. My ex (Admiral – we share the boat) and her husband race her now in a mixed fleet and have done quite well, taking the series title a couple of years ago (she drives, he grinds and the rest of the crew is pretty good). I won our JAM series in 2013 and was second in 2014 (didn’t race all the races last year). Crew: five or six for spin – one on bow to hook up the chute and pull down the genoa – one on mast – handles pole end and helps on the halyards and adjusts the outhaul – everything else on Penniless is led aft, so there can be four in cockpit (too many) so spin trimmer is generally standing by the windows. Driver, main trimmer (traveler is on bridge deck by companionway, easily handled by one person and it is not that vital to jump back to the rail – boat is stout as I said), two jib folks, one to let out, and the other to pull in. Any more, they go on the rail. For JAM, don’t always need the bow person, so mast person can do both – and no spin to trim. Most of the time I like five for JAM, because we sometimes use the spin pole with the genoa. And, sometimes we change sails, no furler. The boat does well on reaches only if you sheet the genoa to the rail or further out with a barber hauler device – I have inboard adjustable genoa tracks. It helps a lot to have some under 60 folks aboard – young and strong is great when hauling in the genoa – it is big. And…. Everybody will tell you – good sails, clean bottom, skilled crew and the 30 will do well in either fleet. Gary #593 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:49 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: randy.staff...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Racing a 30-1 Hi All, I'd welcome any opinions you might like to share on racing a 30-1. As mentioned in the other thread on handicapping JAM boats, I have a choice of racing my (new to me) 30-1 in a spinnaker boat division or a non-spinnaker boat division (my boat is rigged for spinnaker). We have ten-week series in my club, and I'd have to stay in one division for a whole series (but could switch divisions between series). We also have occasional one and two-day weekend races in which I'd have to choose a division. >From what I see in >http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf > , it looks like a 30-1 usually gets a PHRF rating of 174, which would be the >third-lowest rating in my club. We've got a Capri-25 at 173, and an F-240s at >170. One of my questions is how many crew are advisable for racing a 30-1, with spinnaker or without. On smaller boats (Capri-22s, J/22s, Merit 25s) we'd race and fly spinnaker with three crew - helm, trimmer, and foredeck. A fourth could come in handy in heavy air. I've gotten a couple indications that I should have maybe twice that number for a 30-1. What are the typical crew positions on a 30-1? If it makes any difference, my spinnakers have dousing socks. I race on a lake in Colorado. The spinnaker division courses are upwind / downwind, and the non-spinnaker division courses are triangles. We generally try to set courses so that races last 60-90 minutes. Weather-wise we have varied conditions from night to night. Some nights are frickin' gusty, with Colorado afternoon and evening thunderstorms. Some nights are light air and we run out of beer before finishing :) Several times a year we get really good conditions - a steady 15-20 kt. breeze in which everyone's at hull speed and and trying to stay in control and / or reduce weather helm. Sea state is not really an issue, except for some powerboat wake and chop. If there were more light-air nights in a series than heavy-air nights, would a 30-1 perform better against its PRHF on a triangle course, or on an upwind / downwind course? How many crew (some experienced, some not, all still reasonably agile) are needed to handle a 30-1 safely under spinnaker in gusty or heavy-air conditions? Thanks in advance for any opinions. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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