There is an article in the new Sail magazine. In it it says you would need
something like 3000 gph capacity if a large hose broke.

Joel

On Thursday, April 14, 2016, John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Patrick
>
> Just to correct my earlier post - if you do go with a third pump, the pump
> itself doesn't have to be any higher.  Just the float switch for it.  Make
> it a hummer of a pump a give it a dedicated circuit.
>
> John
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 4:08 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
> Patrick:
>
> I don't think anything will keep the boat afloat if a 1-1/2" thru hull
> disintegrated.
>
> I do understand your concern but given the difficulty have you considered
> adding a third pump slightly higher as an emergency pump?  As you will be
> running new plumbing anywhere that is convenient you can make it as big as
> you like.
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
> I've been debating my bilge pump plan for a few months now, and having
> trouble deciding. What have others here decided is sufficient pump
> capacity?
>
> I have two Rule 800s now and am considering upgrading one to an 1100 or
> 2000 gph, as a high water alarm. That will require upgrading the hose from
> 3/4" to 1 1/8", and enlarging the thruhull at the toerail. One of the bilge
> hoses runs through the stbd head (into the head cubbies) and the other runs
> through the hanging locker fwd of the head. Upgrading will require
> enlarging some of the hose holes in the boat's liner (below the cabin sole)
> probably, and of course hole sawing a larger thru hull. So it's a good deal
> more work than just replacing bilge pumps, their wiring, and adding a float
> switch + alarm.
>
> From Wally's page I know he installed a Rule 2000.
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/bilgepmp/bilgepmp.htm
> However it sounds like Wally's LF38 had his hoses run differently - to the
> stern quarter - while mine are to stbd mid-ships.
>
> With two 800's I'm at the low end of the 1600-2000 gph capacity range
> recommended by West Marine (and yes I've read all about how actual capacity
> may be much lower, due to voltage drop, head pressure, etc). I've also
> heard it doesn't make much sense to say that bigger boats need bigger bilge
> pumps - a 20' boat will sink just as fast (or faster) with a 1.5" hole as a
> 38' one will.
>
> I'm more concerned with having the capacity to prevent the boat from
> sinking at dock if say a 1.5" thruhull disintegrated somehow. Less
> concerned with emergency pumping while onboard, because I'm not going far
> offshore and I have a lot of emergency hole plugging options to try (putty,
> foam, wood bungs, carrots, etc).
>
> -Patrick
> 1984 C&C Landfall 38
> Seattle, WA
>
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