When my A4 was raw water cooled I did it like so:
The water intake hose goes into a big 5 gallon bucket full of anti-freeze. I 
put a hose on the exhaust that does the same. The engine pumps the anti-freeze 
around and around and when it gets up to temp I shut it off and change the oil. 
 This can be done in or out of the water.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:50
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4


Marek,

the worry is back-filling through the exhaust.  if the engine is not running 
there is a very real risk of water going in through the exhaust manifold 
because there is no pressure from the exhaust of the running engine pushing the 
water out.  It is the same issue if you are having trouble starting the engine 
and you let the starter continue to turn everything for an extended time 
without the engine firing.  It is a well documented issue on the Moyer Marine 
forums.  The cooling pump itself is what pumps the water in during difficulty 
starting while turning the starter.

Danny

On 10/11/2016 10:42 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
You have to connect the shopvac _after_ the water pump. If your water pump is 
any good it will not allow anything to pass through it (when it Is not 
turning). And if it does, you have to change the impeller.

Marek


From: Kevin Deluzio via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 07:25
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Cc: Kevin Deluzio
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

My first haul-out with a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like 
the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect that to 
the same location - at water intake hose disconnected from seacock ?

Kevin





From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4
Date: October 10, 2016 at 10:27:53 PM EDT
To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>




You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight out 
of the jug.  If you haul the boat you can stuff a tygon hose up the through 
hull and beer bong the glycol into the engine.  Or you can try the seaflush.  I 
have one and it works, though it might be a bit over priced.  I like using the 
shop vac to blow the water out.  That may actually be sufficient.   I am 
cautious though and carefully consider the possibility of stagnant loops of 
water.  So, despite "blowing out"  the engine, I also run glycol.  The nice 
thing is that I don't have to worry as much about the water diluting the 
glycol.  It takes way less glycol to provide freeze protection.

http://www.seaflush.com/sea-flush-1/

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 10, 2016 9:50 PM, "RANDY via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My first haul-out with my 30-1 (purchased in January) is coming up in a few 
weeks, sadly. The PO advised me to just run antifreeze through the raw-water 
cooling system until it comes out the exhaust.  My main question is how to get 
the antifreeze into the raw water intake.  I've seen a gadget made from a 
toilet plunger with a garden hose plumbed into the rubber cone, that can be 
held over the raw water intake with the other end of the hose in a bucket of 
antifreeze.  Any other recommended techniques?  Any other general tips on 
properly winterizing an A4?

Thanks,
Randy






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