First sighted when I was looking at a c&c corvette.  This boat had older Dark 
blue awlgrip and had been upgraded (including hydraulic backstab adjuster) and 
was due again for a general refit
When sighting down the top sides I detected some deep waviness (like 3/16 to 
1/4" distortion)  in the top sides right by the chain plates, and when I looked 
closely i could see hard spots where the chain plate knees attached to the 
hull.  This had occurred after the paint, and of course the dark paint made it 
easier to spot.
So, I started looking for this in other boats, and was quite surprised to see 
how often this kind of distortion occurs especially in early '70s boats 
retrofitted with hydraulic adjusters.   I have never seen it mentioned in a 
survey.  
Anyway, don't believe me, stand astern and sight along the top sides of boats 
at your marina.  
While you are at it, compare the verticality of the rudder vs the keel.   ;-)
Dave.  

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> On Nov 27, 2016, at 9:38 AM, RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Dave I was intrigued by your mention below of "buckled topsides at the 
> chainplates".  What did that look like when you saw it?
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
> 
> From: "Dave S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: "C&c Stus List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: "Dave S" <syerd...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:27:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Brokers and surveyors
> 
> To add to Chuck's thoughts:
> 
> ...
> 
> Surveyors/surveys  are highly variable, and will not be as thorough or 
> effective as you would like.  I have read surveys while looking at boats that 
> missed obvious problems, bent rudder shaft, (2 C&C 34s)  buckled topsides at 
> the chainplates...(several older boats with hydraulic backstay adjusters 
> fitted)   Specific known issues should be researched by the buyer and 
> specifically referenced to the surveyor and broker - again,  in writing.  
> Forums and lists like this are fantastic sources of info, and the list 
> members know more than surveyors, generally.  (Examples would be  banging 
> kanazaki transmissions, worn folding props, rod/wire rigging, keel stub/mast 
> step issues on 33-2, 35-3, 41, cracking keels in frozen parts of the world... 
> - no doubt there are many many others)  It is rare indeed that  a surveyor 
> will be that knowledgable or thorough with regard to a particular model.  
> (unless he owned one, as in Chuck's case)  If I were remote- buying a boat 
> that was worth any sort of money I would make a point of inspecting it with 
> the surveyor.
> 
> ...
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