Yes I found the USCG NVDC to be very straightforward and helpful when I 
exchanged Grenadine's CoD from her previous owner to me one year ago. The USCG 
officers with whom I spoke on the phone were professional and informative, and 
the website and forms and procedures were easy to understand and easy to use. 

My complaint here is that there a predatory third-party business trying to 
deceive vessel owners into thinking it is the USCG NVDC, and then bilking them 
for 3X the cost of what the USCG NVDC charges for the same service. It 
succeeded in doing that to me. Fool me once, shame on me. I'm not the first 
person to get screwed by this unscrupulous company and complain about it - see 
https://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/not-elsewhere-classified/us-marine-surveyors-inc-or-us-vessel-documenta-in-long-beach-ca-646887/reviews-and-complaints
 

Cheers, 
Randy 

----- Original Message -----

From: "phorvati ." <phorv...@gmail.com> 
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "RANDY" <randy.staff...@comcast.net> 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 8:56:03 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Deceitful USCG Documentation Renewal Company 

I purchased a tayana fd12 in september, ended up submitting several parts of 
the application, all per the instruction document. Few of them were release of 
primary mortgage bill of sale and exchange of COD. all via email and pdfs 
attached. I was a bit scepticall but the coast guard website was accurate on 
processing times. I got the new COD last week. it was under 100$. So it took a 
bit, my guess was due to request for release of PM. Coast Guard website works 
but u need to do your own due diligence, read requirements and fulfill them as 
required. 

On Feb 3, 2017 8:17 PM, "RANDY via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 



Listers - fair warning - I got deceived today into paying 3X what I needed to 
for USCG documentation renewal. I received a letter via USPS from an entity 
named "U.S. Vessel Documentation", domain name uscgdocumentation.us , titled 
"Vessel Renewal Courtesy Notice". As I'm sure the sender intended, I mistook 
the letter as being from the United States Coast Guard National Vessel 
Documentation Center, reminding me to renew my Certificate of Documentation. 
It's been on my mind that my CoD is expiring soon, and I've been expecting a 
reminder. 

So I went to uscgdocumentation.us , filled out the renewal form, and submitted 
it. I was surprised to see the price was $75 - I'd remembered the renewal cost 
being ~$25 - but I thought "well, the Coast Guard must have raised their 
prices", and submitted the form anyway, with my credit card information. 

Somehow sometime after doing that, I noticed fine print at the very bottom of 
uscgdocumentation.us web pages, where you wouldn't even normally scroll or 
look, saying "U.S. Vessel Documentation is NOT the U.S. Coast Guard or the 
National Vessel Documentation Center; we are a third party agency that handles 
USCG Documentation processing to NVDC." 

So then I went to the real USCG NVDC website, 
https://www.uscg.mil/nvdc/default.asp, where I applied for an exchange of the 
CoD last year when I bought Grenadine (since she was previously 
USCG-documented), and confirmed their renewal fee is only $26 and you can file 
for renewal online right there. 

At that point I realized I'd been had, and immediately requested cancellation 
of my renewal order from that company, in writing, and in voice mail, and filed 
a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the USGC NVDC about "U.S. 
Vessel Documentation", and contacted my credit card company to block the charge 
from this merchant. I'm now in the process of posting about this experience on 
sailing-related forums I've visited. 

If you own a USCG-documented vessel, *DO NOT* do business through the deceitful 
company uscgdocumentation.us , unless you don't mind paying 3X the cost of 
something you could do directly though https://www.uscg.mil/nvdc/default.asp . 
These "U.S. Vessel Documentation" people are predatory. 

I've posted the letter I received, and an email exchange I had with this 
company, at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTeU1HcDZKTWdiQzA . 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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