David:
When my two back stay turn buckles are tensioned to where I like them,
no adjuster pulled on, there is approx. 2" showing on each one on the
inside of the turn buckle.....I thread both sides of each turn buckle
equally.
When attaching to the back rail when stepping the mast, both are
loosened off approx. 1 1/2 inches of the 2" and they can be pinned no
problem.
I take my adjuster off the back stay each Fall and put it back on the
Spring.....it is not put back on until I have the two back stay(s) on
and tensioned so the adjuster has no part in getting the back stay pinned.
I don't have a halyard attached to the back rail or anywhere.....I don't
use a halyard.....never have.....with the mast in the mast step, blocked
at the base, the mast shimed in the collar, the forestay on, the shrouds
tensioned, my mast isn't going anywhere. A halyard is always added
protection but I will never use one.
Trusting this helps.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2017-05-11 10:50 AM, David Knecht wrote:
They said was that there were only a few threads engaged on the
turnbuckle and they were leaving it to me to tighten it further. I
thought Josh’s idea to take tension off the backstay with the halyard
makes a lot of sense. I will take a look at that today. I know the
backstay adjuster was mostly loose as I had pushed it up with a pole
this spring when I was playing with shroud adjustment.
1. How much tension should there be with the adjuster up as far as it
will go without a pole pushing it. Should there actually be slack to
put the pins back in with the turnbuckles loose but attached without
taking tension off with the halyard as Josh suggested?
2. I am presuming that it is safe to work on the rig with the
backstay detached (meaning the mast is still well supported by the
deck, forestay and shrouds)?
Thanks- Dave
Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
On May 11, 2017, at 8:23 AM, robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca
<mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
David:
My boat has the same setup for a backstay.....split with an
adjuster.....I unstep and step my mast, however, I have no problem
attaching the split backstay which I am the one usually doing it.
I leave the turn buckle(s) attached and simply remove the split ring
and pin in the Fall and in the Spring, one at a time put the pin(s)
in......and when I do this, the forestay is always attached first for
obvious reasons.....the length of the forestay is 'set'......when the
backstay is attached, the turn buckles are tightened.
I can see where it would be difficult if the backstay turn buckles
were removed......then it becomes a two person job to attach
them.....you really need one person pulling back and down on the
backstay and the second threading the turn buckle....it can be done
with one person but a lot simpler with two.
Just curious, when the backstay is attached and tightened, how much
'thread' is showing inside the turnbuckle? Just wondering if your
forestay is too tight.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2017-05-10 11:34 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
My boat has a split backstay with an adjuster that is pulled down
with block and tackle to pinch the split and increase tension (Is
there a nautical name I should know?). My boat was splashed today
and the yard crew complained for the second year about the
difficulty reattaching the backstay. I don’t think previous yards
even disconnected it, but something about their sling and lift
system means they have to come in with the sling from the rear with
no backstay. I am pretty sure the mast has a slight backward rake,
so I can’t see why the length of the backstay would be a problem,
but apparently even with the turnbuckles and adjuster loosened, they
can barely get it reattached. I can’t come up with a reason why
they would have such a problem and if it means that something is not
right with the rig. I will check the rake again tomorrow now that
the boat is floating and level, but it has always had some amount of
rake as measured by a weight hanging from the main halyard. Any
thoughts on something I might be missing or is it normal for that
kind of backstay to have limited adjustability? Thanks- Dave
Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
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