Thanks everyone for the information. I have documented the details of what everyone has said. One final question, it might be dumb but, where do I light the stove and how.
Thanks, Ray LakeHouse On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:37 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Alternator Charging both banks? (Francois Rivard) > 2. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (damian.gre...@yahoo.com) > 3. C&C 33mk1 - Merlin (Joe Jonika) > 4. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Della Barba, Joe) > 5. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Richard Gonesailing) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:10:35 -0400 > From: Francois Rivard <jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? > Message-ID: > <CAOcd1ycJkuLYdV0UcAU7DL6=_mmAKESRsHhWiOtyzGHdu1jFZg@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks guys, > > I'll double check the wiring next time. I do have 2 banks consisting of > 3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting > battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house. > > I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger. Since we sometimes > can't make it to the boat for several weeks at a time, especially in the > winter (We sail 12 months a year) I pretty much always leave the charger on > when the boat is at the dock to make sure the batteries stay topped-off. > > Outside of replacing the house batteries 2 years ago and the starting > battery this year (They're cheapo Walmart batteries and were 5-7 years old) > Everything was working perfect until a last week, now the the charger is > throwing an error / might be fried so I'm looking at this charging thing in > greater details. > > I'll let you guys know what I find out about the charger / what I'll do > about it. > > Thanks again. > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ Take Five > Lake Lanier, GA > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180612/ba99cbb5/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:04:43 +0000 (UTC) > From: "damian.gre...@yahoo.com" <damian.gre...@yahoo.com> > To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > Message-ID: <967828614.3013052.1528877083...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ray, > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the > regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage > or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve > inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older > CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the > line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first > try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the > air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the > cylinder when not in use. > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key > difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid > - so a LOT LESS fuel.?With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and > those tanks are heavy!? They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or > fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure > gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > Regards, > Damian > =========================================================== > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hello > I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove? I had the tank refilled but > since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I > would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to > use it?? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > Hopeful > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.? Each > and every one is greatly appreciated.? If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution --? https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180613/ec3f3c80/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:43:35 -0400 > From: Joe Jonika <jjon...@chartermi.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List C&C 33mk1 - Merlin > Message-ID: <93ab1e5a-78d9-97a6-dda7-139640c74...@chartermi.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > My 33 (1976), that I have owned for the last 22yrs, is up for sale, in > Traverse City MI.? It is well maintained, very clean and very very > shiny.? She has Quantum sails, new A-Sym spin and various other sails. > And as you know the 33 has beautiful lines, is a very nice club racer > and cruiser for a couple or small family.? The A-4 engine has all new > electrical parts and carb. That engine has never run so well and can be > idled down without worry of stalling.? There are many details and pics I > can share, if you are interested.? I am asking $19,900 obo. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:24:48 +0000 > From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > Message-ID: > <d4018448bff6470497c67465e74f0...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am pretty sure the regulator uses a backwards thread, so watch out for > that. > Your tank should have a pressure gauge and it is linear. Propane holds > about 250 PSI from 100% full to about 1% full and then drops rapidly to 0. > CNG starts around 2000 PSI and when it gets to 1000 it is half used and 500 > is 3/4s used and so on. > I bought an adapter from FleaBay and fill my CNG tank at a gas station for > CNG cars. I think it costs about $2 for a fill ? > Please do be careful. CNG is a *little bit* safer than propane because it > is lighter than air, so a leak will float up to your nose level instead of > filling from the bilge on up. It is still a flammable gas, so leaks are > still dangerous, as the crew of Deepwater Horizon found out the hard way. I > turn my tank off when not in use. I use my propane rail mount grill a lot > to save CNG and save heat in the cabin, so I usually fill my CNG tank once > a year. That is mainly coffee and eggs in the morning, hot water for > dishes, and the occasional loaf of bread or roast in the oven. > Joe > Coquina > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > damian.greene--- via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:05 AM > To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: damian.gre...@yahoo.com > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > > Ray, > > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the > regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage > or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve > inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older > CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the > line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first > try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the > air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the > cylinder when not in use. > > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key > difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid > - so a LOT LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and > those tanks are heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or > fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure > gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > > Regards, > > Damian > > =========================================================== > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > > > Hello > I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but > since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I > would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to > use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > Hopeful > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180613/c2469a8d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:36:40 -0400 > From: Richard Gonesailing <richardgonesail...@sympatico.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > Message-ID: <666d4ee5-0406-4577-a69c-b078f206d...@sympatico.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just to say we have CNG on board our 29 for the last 20 years and find > that with 2 tanks and the boat is used for 4 months every weekend and > that?s using the oven and the BBQ we usually go through a tank and a half. > The tanks are the size of dive tanks and cost 40 bucks to fill both never > mind the safety of the gas rising versus settling make sure you install a > xintex control unit with a solenoid shut off valve. Also the regulator for > the tanks will have a vent on it make sure you connect a hose on it to vent > fitting on the side of the hull > > Just my 2 cents > > > \ | / > > (@ @) > > --o00--(_)--00o-- > > 416-805-3020 cell > > ..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/) > > I'd rather be sailing > > Sent from Richard's iPhone > > > > On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:04 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > Ray, > > > > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > > > > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around > the regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious > damage or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff > valve inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an > older CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise > the line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you > first try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed > the air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at > the cylinder when not in use. > > > > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key > difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid > - so a LOT LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and > those tanks are heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or > fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure > gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > > > > Regards, > > > > Damian > > > > =========================================================== > > > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled > but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. > I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how > to use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > > > Hopeful > > Ray > > LakeHouse > > Milwaukee WI. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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