Mine doesn’t ignite as well. I found a single AA battery in a (broken) holder that clips to the edge under the oven.
I held it together to try to make contact, but couldn’t get the igniter to come to life. Not sure if getting a proper battery holder will do the trick, but think I will try. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions My burners light with a match/lighter. The electronic lighter died L Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Raymond Macklin via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Raymond Macklin <ray.mack...@gmail.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions Thanks everyone for the information. I have documented the details of what everyone has said. One final question, it might be dumb but, where do I light the stove and how. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:37 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Alternator Charging both banks? (Francois Rivard) 2. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (damian.gre...@yahoo.com) 3. C&C 33mk1 - Merlin (Joe Jonika) 4. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Della Barba, Joe) 5. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Richard Gonesailing) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:10:35 -0400 From: Francois Rivard <jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? Message-ID: <CAOcd1ycJkuLYdV0UcAU7DL6=_mmakesrshhwiotyzghdu1j...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks guys, I'll double check the wiring next time. I do have 2 banks consisting of 3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house. I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger. Since we sometimes can't make it to the boat for several weeks at a time, especially in the winter (We sail 12 months a year) I pretty much always leave the charger on when the boat is at the dock to make sure the batteries stay topped-off. Outside of replacing the house batteries 2 years ago and the starting battery this year (They're cheapo Walmart batteries and were 5-7 years old) Everything was working perfect until a last week, now the the charger is throwing an error / might be fried so I'm looking at this charging thing in greater details. I'll let you guys know what I find out about the charger / what I'll do about it. Thanks again. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When you first try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when not in use. CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT LESS fuel.?With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are heavy!? They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. Regards, Damian =========================================================== On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hello I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove? I had the tank refilled but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to use it?? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. Hopeful Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee WI. _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.? Each and every one is greatly appreciated.? If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --? https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180613/ec3f3c80/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:43:35 -0400 From: Joe Jonika <jjon...@chartermi.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List C&C 33mk1 - Merlin Message-ID: <93ab1e5a-78d9-97a6-dda7-139640c74...@chartermi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed My 33 (1976), that I have owned for the last 22yrs, is up for sale, in Traverse City MI.? It is well maintained, very clean and very very shiny.? She has Quantum sails, new A-Sym spin and various other sails. And as you know the 33 has beautiful lines, is a very nice club racer and cruiser for a couple or small family.? The A-4 engine has all new electrical parts and carb. That engine has never run so well and can be idled down without worry of stalling.? There are many details and pics I can share, if you are interested.? I am asking $19,900 obo. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:24:48 +0000 From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions Message-ID: <d4018448bff6470497c67465e74f0...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I am pretty sure the regulator uses a backwards thread, so watch out for that. Your tank should have a pressure gauge and it is linear. Propane holds about 250 PSI from 100% full to about 1% full and then drops rapidly to 0. CNG starts around 2000 PSI and when it gets to 1000 it is half used and 500 is 3/4s used and so on. I bought an adapter from FleaBay and fill my CNG tank at a gas station for CNG cars. I think it costs about $2 for a fill ? Please do be careful. CNG is a *little bit* safer than propane because it is lighter than air, so a leak will float up to your nose level instead of filling from the bilge on up. It is still a flammable gas, so leaks are still dangerous, as the crew of Deepwater Horizon found out the hard way. I turn my tank off when not in use. I use my propane rail mount grill a lot to save CNG and save heat in the cabin, so I usually fill my CNG tank once a year. That is mainly coffee and eggs in the morning, hot water for dishes, and the occasional loaf of bread or roast in the oven. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of damian.greene--- via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:05 AM To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: damian.gre...@yahoo.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions Ray, There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when not in use. CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. Regards, Damian =========================================================== On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Hello I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. Hopeful Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee WI. _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also the regulator for the tanks will have a vent on it make sure you connect a hose on it to vent fitting on the side of the hull Just my 2 cents > \ | / > (@ @) > --o00--(_)--00o-- > 416-805-3020 cell > ..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/) > I'd rather be sailing > Sent from Richard's iPhone > On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:04 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Ray, > > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the > regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or > kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside > the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG > setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. > Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to > light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from > the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when > not in use. > > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference > between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT > LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are > heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to > use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your > regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > > Regards, > > Damian > > =========================================================== > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Hello > I have a 1985 C&C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but > since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I > would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to > use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > Hopeful > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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