simply because of my docking situation i have only 1 half finger pier and 3 
pilings one side and 4 other with 1/2 pier. so no place to put spring lines 
that function tohold   boat from goong fore and aft. And no place  no room for 
2 lines on bow or stern cleats even if I could go  that route
This rookie is still working out details as to what works best

JohnC
s/v halcyon

On Jun 27, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I’ve actually been following this discussion, though I don’t foresee the need 
for a mid-ship cleat on Imzadi.

Imzadi is one of the mid-70s C&Cs that came with a winch farm around the mast. 
I’ve led lines aft and eliminated the winches, but kept the cleats on the cabin 
top. The spring lines in my home slip are attached high on pilings so they can 
be routed over the lifelines and to the cabin top mid-ship cleats. Since I 
leave a set of lines permanently attached at the home slip, and they are preset 
for length with the eye toward the boat, this makes entering the slip and tying 
up pretty easy.

On the bigger boats I’ve worked on (up to about 85 feet or so) and observed, 
the normal procedure is to run the springs from the bow and stern and attach 
them to the dock in the middle. That is the practice I almost always use when 
on a dock other than my home slip. And that is the way my 25 is secured in her 
slip.

On the 72 foot schooner I used to captain, we had prerigged bow and bow spring 
through the forward hawse hole, and prerigged stern and aft spring lines 
through the aft hole. We did have a short-ish (25 ft. or so) breast line 
through a mid-ship hawse, but that line was always the first line to the dock 
so I could use the engine fore and aft to snug the boat up to the dock before 
setting dock lines, and it was removed and coiled after the other lines were 
secure.

I guess I’m curious why so many other C&Cers have added mid-ship cleats?


Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC



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