Hi John,
Please send me a picture of your boat in the slip and I might have some ideas 
on how to rig springs.


> On June 27, 2018 at 5:13 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>     simply because of my docking situation i have only 1 half finger pier and 
> 3 pilings one side and 4 other with 1/2 pier. so no place to put spring lines 
> that function tohold   boat from goong fore and aft. And no place  no room 
> for 2 lines on bow or stern cleats even if I could go  that route 
>     This rookie is still working out details as to what works best 
> 
>     JohnC
>     s/v halcyon
> 
>     On Jun 27, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
>         > > 
> >         I’ve actually been following this discussion, though I don’t 
> > foresee the need for a mid-ship cleat on Imzadi.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Imzadi is one of the mid-70s C&Cs that came with a winch farm 
> > around the mast. I’ve led lines aft and eliminated the winches, but kept 
> > the cleats on the cabin top. The spring lines in my home slip are attached 
> > high on pilings so they can be routed over the lifelines and to the cabin 
> > top mid-ship cleats. Since I leave a set of lines permanently attached at 
> > the home slip, and they are preset for length with the eye toward the boat, 
> > this makes entering the slip and tying up pretty easy.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         On the bigger boats I’ve worked on (up to about 85 feet or so) and 
> > observed, the normal procedure is to run the springs from the bow and stern 
> > and attach them to the dock in the middle. That is the practice I almost 
> > always use when on a dock other than my home slip. And that is the way my 
> > 25 is secured in her slip.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         On the 72 foot schooner I used to captain, we had prerigged bow and 
> > bow spring through the forward hawse hole, and prerigged stern and aft 
> > spring lines through the aft hole. We did have a short-ish (25 ft. or so) 
> > breast line through a mid-ship hawse, but that line was always the first 
> > line to the dock so I could use the engine fore and aft to snug the boat up 
> > to the dock before setting dock lines, and it was removed and coiled after 
> > the other lines were secure.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         I guess I’m curious why so many other C&Cers have added mid-ship 
> > cleats?
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Rick Brass
> > 
> >         Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
> > 
> >         la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
> > 
> >         Washington, NC
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >     > 
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