Danny, You are going to need to trace wires. The regulator does not see different banks. The alternator output could go to one or both. If it goes to one, there needs to be a device (ACR etc) or switch to charge the other. If you check the voltage at each bank befroe and just after you start the engine you should see a jump in voltage at each bank if they are both being charged. If there is an ACR, one bank will fully charge before the load dumps to the other bank.
Joel On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > this is as much as I know right now. > > The house and start are completely separate. Even separate switches. the > start battery has its own on/off switch But, then the 3 house batteries are > separated into a off/1/both/2 switch. two batteries on 2 and one batter on > 1. I was thinking the regulator would prioritize the start battery then > send the current to the house when the start was satisfied. I was > wondering if the start battery never got satisfied would the regulator > never send the current to the house bank? > > On 7/16/2018 9:48 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote: > > Also depends on which battery is supposed to be the first one charged. > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I don't know what type of setup you have regarding the house and starting >> battery. Is it a switch, acr, or echo-charge? Depending on the answer, >> yes a failed start battery could affect the entire system. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:20 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> well, the battery was showing 12.7 by the time I got it back to the >>> boat. It would not start the engine. I did jump start it and found the >>> alternator was putting out 14.4 volts. So I ran out and bought an >>> interstate starting battery. I installed that, started the engine and got >>> 14.4 volts at the battery terminals with the engine running. Then, I went >>> sailing! >>> >>> Anyway, my question now is, if the starting battery was not taking the >>> charge, would the alternator just keep trying to charge the starting >>> battery and never reach a full charge so never send anything to the house? >>> In essence, the spent battery was the break in the system like a bucket >>> with a big hole in it? >>> >>> On 7/15/2018 8:50 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Disconnect for 24 hours and then take the voltage again. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 8:47 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 12.9 reading with charger off. It's a smart charger and will slow and >>>> then stop charge as battery charges. It is sitting with charger attached >>>> just reading voltage >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Danny >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> Date: 7/15/18 8:04 AM (GMT-05:00) >>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Charging issues >>>> >>>> 12.9v on or off the charger? That's too low if on the charger. Even >>>> the smallest trickle chargers put out ~13.5v >>>> >>>> It is possible to have a one of the six cells go bad, reducing the >>>> battery's appropriate full charge voltage to 10.6 instead of 12.7 the >>>> charger is dumb and keeps trying to put as much as 14.7 into the battery. >>>> This extra voltage overcharges the battery and boils off electrolyte. >>>> Under this condition the battery voltage may never get to 14.7 but it can >>>> easily get to 12.7. It will quickly decay and stabilize near 10.6-ish when >>>> the charger is removed. This may take a few hours to occur. If/When a >>>> load is applied the voltage will drop dramatically and stabilize near >>>> 10.6v. If this is the case then you need a new battery. >>>> >>>> Josh Muckley >>>> S/V Sea Hawk >>>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>>> Solomons, MD >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 7:29 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>> Thank you for the insight. The start battery showed just 12.1 when I >>>>> put it on the charger. I just went out and battery now shows full at 12.9 >>>>> volts. >>>>> >>>>> It seems like the charge isn't getting to the batteries. This is one >>>>> system I haven't dug into yet. I guess that's going to change... >>>>> >>>>> I think I need to find a diagram somewhere >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Danny >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>>> From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>>> Date: 7/14/18 11:09 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>>> Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Charging issues >>>>> >>>>> Generally, yes, if you are showing about 14 volts when the engine is >>>>> running, the alternator is probably OK. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When you say the start battery is not charging, is it safe to assume >>>>> that the start battery will not start the engine? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Under normal circumstances, and depending on the Amp-Hour capacity of >>>>> the start battery, it will probably never get below 95% to 99% state of >>>>> charge. (Unless, of course, you are using it to also power your house >>>>> loads.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For example, the 36 HP Universal in my 38 draws 175 amps for about 30 >>>>> seconds in starting, or about 1.4 AH. That is about 1.3% discharge on the >>>>> 105AH deep cycle battery I use for starting. (And only for starting except >>>>> in an emergency) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So the start battery is capable of reaching full charge in just a few >>>>> minutes of engine run time, and the full output from the alternator then >>>>> gets directed to the house bank if that is at a lower state of charge. If >>>>> both are fully charged, the current flow just creates heat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check your start battery with a volt meter and both engine and battery >>>>> switch turned off. If you get 12.6 volts or more, everything is probably >>>>> OK. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the start battery won’t start the motor, you probably need a new >>>>> battery. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rick Brass >>>>> >>>>> Washington, NC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Danny Haughey via CnC-List >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:31 PM >>>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>>> *Cc:* Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Charging issues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So my gauge shows 14amps while motoring but after a long motoring trip >>>>> my starting battery and house batteries are not charging. The house >>>>> batteries charge under shore power. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm taking the starting battery home to throw on a charger to see if >>>>> it will take a charge. If oin l I'm seeing the 14 amps can I assume the >>>>> alternator is working? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Danny >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. >>>>> Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the >>>>> list >>>>> - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >>> every one is greatly appreciated. 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