The regulator does not prioritise one battery (bank) of the other. If you have 
an ACR or an EchoCharger, the house should be priorities and the start battery 
should be charged once the house is full.

Btw. and I know you did not ask for it, but your house bank would work better 
if it was a single bank. After all you have a separate start battery.

Marek

From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:05
To: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Cc: Danny Haughey
Subject: Re: Stus-List Charging issues


this is as much as I know right now.

The house and start are completely separate.  Even separate switches.  the 
start battery has its own on/off switch But, then the 3 house batteries are 
separated into a off/1/both/2 switch.  two batteries on 2 and one batter on 1.  
I was thinking the regulator would prioritize the start battery then send the 
current to the house when the start was satisfied.  I was wondering if the 
start battery never got satisfied would the regulator never send the current to 
the house bank?

On 7/16/2018 9:48 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
Also depends on which battery is supposed to be the first one charged.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I don't know what type of setup you have regarding the house and starting 
battery.  Is it a switch, acr, or echo-charge?  Depending on the answer, yes a 
failed start battery could affect the entire system.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:20 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

well, the battery was showing 12.7 by the time I got it back to the boat.  It 
would not start the engine.  I did jump start it and found the alternator was 
putting out 14.4 volts.  So I ran out and bought an interstate starting 
battery.  I installed that, started the engine and got 14.4 volts at the 
battery terminals with the engine running.  Then, I went sailing!

Anyway, my question now is, if the starting battery was not taking the charge, 
would the alternator just keep trying to charge the starting battery and never 
reach a full charge so never send anything to the house?  In essence, the spent 
battery was the break in the system like a bucket with a big hole in it?

On 7/15/2018 8:50 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
Disconnect for 24 hours and then take the voltage again.

Josh



On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 8:47 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
12.9 reading with charger off.  It's a smart charger and will slow and then 
stop charge as battery charges.  It is sitting with charger attached just 
reading voltage



Thanks,
Danny
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/15/18 8:04 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Charging issues

12.9v on or off the charger?  That's too low if on the charger.  Even the 
smallest trickle chargers put out ~13.5v

It is possible to have a one of the six cells go bad, reducing the battery's 
appropriate full charge voltage to 10.6 instead of 12.7  the charger is dumb 
and keeps trying to put as much as 14.7 into the battery.  This extra voltage 
overcharges the battery and boils off electrolyte.  Under this condition the 
battery voltage may never get to 14.7 but it can easily get to 12.7.  It will 
quickly decay and stabilize near 10.6-ish when the charger is removed.  This 
may take a few hours to occur.  If/When a load is applied the voltage will drop 
dramatically and stabilize near 10.6v.  If this is the case then you need a new 
battery.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 7:29 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi Rick,
Thank you for the insight.  The start battery showed just 12.1 when I put it on 
the charger.  I just went out and battery now shows full at 12.9 volts.

It seems like the charge isn't getting to the batteries.  This is one system I 
haven't dug into yet.  I guess that's going to change...

I think I need to find a diagram somewhere



Thanks,
Danny

-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/14/18 11:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Charging issues

Generally, yes, if you are showing about 14 volts when the engine is running, 
the alternator is probably OK.

When you say the start battery is not charging, is it safe to assume that the 
start battery will not start the engine?

Under normal circumstances, and depending on the Amp-Hour capacity of the start 
battery, it will probably never get below 95% to 99% state of charge. (Unless, 
of course, you are using it to also power your house loads.)

For example, the 36 HP Universal in my 38 draws 175 amps for about 30 seconds 
in starting, or about 1.4 AH. That is about 1.3% discharge on the 105AH deep 
cycle battery I use for starting. (And only for starting except in an emergency)

So the start battery is capable of reaching full charge in just a few minutes 
of engine run time, and the full output from the alternator then gets directed 
to the house bank if that is at a lower state of charge. If both are fully 
charged, the current flow just creates heat.

Check your start battery with a volt meter and both engine and battery switch 
turned off. If you get 12.6 volts or more, everything is probably OK.

If the start battery won’t start the motor, you probably need a new battery.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com>
Subject: Stus-List Charging issues

So my gauge shows 14amps while motoring but after a long motoring trip my 
starting battery and house batteries are not charging.  The house batteries 
charge under shore power.

I'm taking the starting battery home to throw on a charger to see if it will 
take a charge.  If oin l I'm seeing the 14 amps can I assume the alternator is 
working?



Thanks,
Danny
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