Hahaha! This is so funny. Andrew serving the table for someone else (me) to 
bash on Beneteau and Hunter and Marek really trying to literally translate a 
figurative "translation" joke.

Andrew knew I may be easy to start on that path... But... I will stick to what 
I know from experience. The only boats I have seen dismasted while sailing are 
all Hunter. I have seen one 35.5 broke her mast right at a start of a local 
race. Bad luck? Maybe, but I have also seen two other larger hunter that lost 
their rig sailing in under 20 knots wind. We have a lot more older C&Cs in our 
region and I have never seen one lose their stick. I have seen a lot with bad 
blisters too. But yes hunter are roomy and affordable.

As for Beneteau, they are different in my opinion, they made good boats like 
the First 42 ( German Frers design) but they also made "sailing boats" that 
would be more in their element in a trailer park.

I quite liked some of the First, like the 29, the 345 or the 375. Those "euro" 
style boats were ahead of their time like most C&Cs. But for me the rusty iron 
keel and keel bolts, the moldy vinyl liner, or the glued GRP structural grid in 
newer boats ( 36.7, 40.7) that traps water... always made me come back to C&C 
that are not perfect, nor for everyone, but for me they usually tick the right 
boxes.

I'm sure a lot of sailors could bad mouth our boats. I have seen and corrected 
some issues, but the sailing qualities are there for sure and I think that C&Cs 
lines age well and still look good today.

Every brand has its identity, + and -. As you all know it's a compromise, it 
depends... we are not building a custom boat with unlimited budget!

A friend of mine just came back from a BVIs charter on a Bali 4.0 cat. He was 
so disappointed with the "sailing" part of his trip. He missed his CS36 upwind 
that's all I will report.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New-richmond, Qc.



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Le 26 avr. 2019 à 14:34, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

I am not a French speaker (at least, not a francophone), but from what I know, 
the name Beneteau (or rather, Bénéteau) came from the last name of the original 
founder/constructor/shipwright.

The “hunter” would be “chasseur”. If you want to stretch the similarities, 
“bonneteau” is French for a three-card game, but it has nothing to do with 
either Hunter or Beneteau.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:52
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it true 
that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)

Andy

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