very good units

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The Navico WP30 hasn't been made in 15 years or so.  It is/was an
> excellent wheel pilot for boats under 15,000 lbs or so.  Wish they still
> made them.
>
> The big advantage of the WP30 is that it is a self contained unit.  The
> compass was built into the unit mounted on the pedestal.  It did not
> require an external compass.  In its simplest form, all you had to do was
> supply 12 vdc power and press one button and it was steering to course.
> Add NMEA 0183 input and it steers to wind and waypoint.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOopONhR-uQ
>
> In my opinion, the algorithms it used to steer were superior to other
> wheel pilots.  It compensated well for sea state, etc. and did not require
> rudder position indicator data.
>
> I've logged many, many miles on Touche' with the WP30 and still love it.
> So much so that I bought a second unit off eBay for a spare.
>
> Used it this week in steer to course, steer to waypoint and steer to wind
> mode.  Worked great.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:34 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting idea. I was also an IT guy (retired), but prefer to keep
>> things simple and manageable.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the WP30 (is there an earlier thread on this?), but
>> I also have an older autopilot controller, a ComNav 1420, currently driving
>> a Raymarine wheel pilot motor. I don't have any other electronics (have
>> used Navionics so far), but will need to get radar and a chartplotter soon
>> for a planned trip to Haida Gwai and around Vancouver Island. I don't use
>> the AP much, usually in calm weather motoring only, as the drive motor/belt
>> system is pretty weak. The ComNav 1420 does support NEMA 0183, so it might
>> be worth keeping.
>>
>> What I'd really like to find is a more open system like Maretron with a
>> SI-Tex TCP/IP radar, but I understand those radomes are no longer made. I'm
>> not a fan of spending $$$ on vendor locked in electronics with a limited
>> lifespan. This SV Delos video on YT shows a very nice system that allows
>> for managing all functions from a tablet or PC, which appeals to me, but I
>> haven't located a source for a network radar at a reasonable cost yet:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUSrbKS1-A
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:16 PM Francois Rivard via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> There are a few ways to skin that cat.  I'm also an IT guy, we live for
>>> workarounds :-)
>>>
>>> Skin the cat #1  To Navico's point: It would probably be somewhat of a
>>> feat to get the Zeus2 to recognize a 20 + year old WP 30 as a bonafide
>>> NMEA2000 modern day autopilot. Someone could spend months researching
>>> , write some fancy code to fool the Zeus, build that into an Arduino board,
>>> plug it in between, spend quite a few $$$ on ancillary stuff, and fool with
>>> it for untold hours to make it work.  --- > not my speed.
>>>
>>> Skin the cat #2:  Spend about $2,800 - $3,200 to get a proper controller
>>> CPU / hydraulic  or $$ mechanical under the deck steering quadrant driving
>>> system, build the fiberglass mounts needed, drop the rudder to fit, etc,
>>> etc.  For all that you get to use the cool Zeus autopilot functions /
>>> screens and have a robust blue water ready autopilot system.   Most likely
>>> the thing to do for serious offshore work / not necessary for land locked
>>> Lake Lanier Georgia.
>>>
>>> Skin the cat # 3:  Play it safe and spend 200 bucks /  buy the Actisense
>>> NMEA Buffer SBF-3-BAS to make sure you don't fry your 1,000 bucks +
>>> chartplotter,  (
>>> http://www.allgadgets.co.uk/marine/pc/Actisense-NMEA-Buffer-NBF-3-BAS-p532.htm)
>>> and hook-up the Autopilot to use it's own Steer to wind function or follow
>>> waypoints dictated  by your routes in Zeus.
>>>
>>> You don't necessarily have to use the Zeus autopilot functions. Using
>>> the video / NMEA0183 cable connected to Zeus and running it as designed it
>>> will broadcast all the necessary wind  / depth / speed  / heading / cross
>>> track  / waypoint information to NMEA0183.  The old WP30 is actually
>>> designed to listen to that broadcast info and react accordingly (It's
>>> supposed to do it quite well).  You just make sure your Zeus is on and
>>> configured to broadcast then you hold the "Standby" WP30 button for a few
>>> seconds, and click both left and right arrows (On the WP 30 controller) at
>>> the same time.  Done!  Now the WP30 is a slave tho whatever Zeus is
>>> broadcasting and everything is working as designed by Navico 20+ years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> Option #3 Works for me.
>>>
>>> Best of luck with the project.
>>>
>>> Francois Rivard
>>> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
>>> Lake Lanier, GA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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