Edd,
On Narragansett Bay almost all the clubs use Gov't marks augmented by
RC/YC dropped marks for their courses. If a mark starts drifting or the
USCG pulls a gov't mark the race is normally abandoned. Narragansett bay
East passage is defined by the USCG as a "Narrow Channel" and therefor
deepdraft vessels have the right of way over sailboats. Sooo... about
once a year some boat attempts to cross the bow of a laden commercial
deepdraft and gets 5 short blast and the RC gets a call from the pilot.
(Duct tape does not fix stupid!!). In fact next week the USCG is
speaking to a group of the various race committees on an incident last
year. All organizing authorities are required to notify the USCG of
their events which are published in Notice to Mariners.
Like others that have spoken, virtual marks would be problematic.
Don Kern
Fireball, C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 3/6/2020 1:06 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
I agree too.
On March 6, 2020 at 11:58 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Same here agree with Joe
On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
As usual, I agree with Joe.
*From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> *On Behalf Of *Della
Barba, Joe via CnC-List
*Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2020 9:41 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov
<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C&C Related
IMHO this is a bad idea.
The whole idea of how mark roundings happen in racing cannot work
if the notional idea of where the mark is differs by even 5 or 10
feet from boat to boat. I would either use government marks or
you all cough up enough cash to get an old Whaler and teenager to
run around moving marks.
Joe
Coquina
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<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt
Wolford via CnC-List
*Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 9:17 AM
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*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not
C&C Related
I recall being in a race a number of years ago in which the mark
was missing. The owner of the lead boat claimed the boat did a
“navigational rounding” – which it may have done – but everyone
was so skeptical that the race was abandoned.
As long as you have a fleet of Corinthian sailors and everyone
agrees ahead of time, I suppose you can do whatever the fleet
decides. That said, don’t be surprised if you get some
disgruntlement in practice.
*From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> *On Behalf Of *Edd
Schillay via CnC-List
*Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2020 5:13 PM
*To:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
*Cc:* Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com <mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
*Subject:* Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C&C Related
Listers,
As you all know, this past summer, I relocated my home, office
and the Enterprise from City Island to the Suncoast of Florida —
and I’m getting involved in the race management over here, which
has been terribly lazy.
One of the big issues we face is lack of resources. Marks are
dropped in the water a day or two in advance of a regatta and
then are either cut loose, vandalized or have broken free by the
time a race is actually run. And there is no chase boat usually
available to either drop a new mark or put up an M flag to act as
one.
Someone brought up the idea of a virtual mark in case a mark is
missing, which is a new concept to me. I was thinking of language
in the SIs that say something along the lines of “If a mark is
missing or has moved more than 300 feet from its stated
latitude/longitude position, and the race committee is unable to
replace it, then the mark shall be the stated latitude/longitude
position.”
Basically, the thought is, especially since this happens now and
again, not to have to cancel a regatta because a mark has
disappeared.
Has anyone ever used “virtual marks”? Does anyone object to the
practice? If so, why?
Appreciate anyone’s input. Even Risch’s.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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