Always run a messenger line so you can pull another wire when the mast is
up!

Joel

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:27 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had hoped to pull our mast soon, but with the mast crane out of service
> due to covid, it will have to wait. Some great info on this thread, so I
> will save it.
>
> One option for thinner PVC is to use white (water) PVC, which you can get
> in a CL200 rating (at least in Canada) for light use; it is a bit thinner
> walled, and UV resistance is not an issue inside the mast. You could also
> seek out aluminum electrical conduit, which will be even thinner. Regarding
> sizing, I just installed two 3/4" conduits (grey electrical type) through
> the bilge for wiring, and was able to get the wiring for both Garmin and
> Standard horizon depth sounders through one conduit by staggering the
> connectors - two 7 pin DIN twist lock, and one RCA for the old SH unit.
> Once the connectors are through, there is plenty of space for smaller
> cables.
> Holding the conduit in place while drilling and riveting might be
> challenge also. Too bad the mast doesn't have a wire track like some of the
> newer ones.
>
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:30 PM Nathan Post via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> As one of my boat projects this spring I am replacing the electrical
>> wiring in my mast.   The mast is currently down (horizontal) so now is the
>> time to do it.  I want to secure the wires in the mast, in particular to
>> reduce noise (when rocking at anchor).  Wisper is a 1981 C&C 34 with a keel
>> stepped mast and 5 internal halyards in addition to the wires.  The cables
>> are for wind instruments, masthead and steaming lights, VHF coax, and radar
>> (power and communication) so it will be a substantial bundle with a
>> separate drop at the spreader.  The two approaches I am considering are:
>>
>> 1) Creating a bundle (wiring harness) of the cables and placing 3 large
>> cable ties on the bundle at perhaps 2 or 3 foot intervals with the tails
>> sticking out at 120 deg angles that will bend over and press against the
>> mast and keep the cables in the middle.  I would use Panduit metal barb
>> outdoor zip ties which are robust, smooth edged, and long lasting.
>>
>> 2) Installing a PVC conduit (using rivets?) with a feeder line for the
>> cables and then running the cables through it.
>>
>> There is support of both methods in various forums online.  Cable ties
>> are definitely the simpler method.  The main advantages to the conduit that
>> I see is being able to run an additional wire through it at a later time
>> potentially with the mast up.  Also I might be able to run cables from top
>> to bottom so that a large connector can remain preinstalled on the top (for
>> example for the radar unit) rather than needing to feed everything in to
>> the bottom at once and then fishing the ends out the various small holes in
>> the mast and reattaching connectors.  The disadvantage is the effort
>> required to install it and the additional holes I would need to create in
>> the mast.  I am also unsure how quiet either solution would be and the
>> relative chance of tangling or extra friction or wear on a halyard although
>> most info on-line seems to indicate that the conduit is the better choice
>> for that.
>>
>> With the conduit approach, I am also debating if two smaller conduits -
>> one to the spreader and one to the mast head - would make more sense than
>> having a hole in large conduit at the spreader location.
>>
>> Has anyone done either of these securing approaches?  What are your
>> thoughts on the success?  How much does it silence the cables?  Is the
>> effort for the conduit worth it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nathan Post
>> S/V Wisper
>> 1981 C&C 34 CB
>> Lynn MA, USA
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