Let's exclude power boats -- an entirely different environment and demand on 
the hardware.
Jeff L.

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From: WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:49 AM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Stuffing Box

I have had PSS droplets on two boats for over 20 years with absolutely no 
issues.  I wonder if failure related to fact it was power boat with more hours 
of turning shaft at higher rpms and maybe not sufficient cooling?
In the end, it's what let's you sleep at night that's important.
Bill Walker

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 08:34:58 AM EDT, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
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The power boat that was docked next to me at a marina in Florida experienced 
such a failure. I was there when it happened. The owner knocked on my boat and 
wanted a portable water pump if I had one. Long story short, water came in 
faster than the bilge pumps could get it out and he got an emergency tow $$$ to 
the travel lift for a haul out. There was another failure that I did not 
personally witness within a year or so of that event. This was at a 600 slip 
marina, not a scientific sample or experiment I concede, but enough to scare me 
off. I make no claim that the devices were properly maintained, just that 
bronze packing glands don't shatter. It may be that newer "dripless" designs 
exist that won't fail in this way, I don't know, but I know for a fact that 
some designs can and do under some circumstances.

Steve Thomas

C&C27 MKIII - Ontario

C&C36 MKI - Florida


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Subject: Stus-List Re: Stuffing Box

Hello all,

From time to time this discussion of stuffing box vs PSS dripless comes up and 
catastrophic failure is typically mentioned.

Has anyone on this list experienced a PSS catastrophic failure (that is the 
fault of PSS) or have direct knowledge of someone who did?

Installed PSS 4 years ago. Maintenance free = more time sailing.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34
Harmony
Ludington, Mi

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I’ve had a PSS shaft seal for our long time on our LF38 with no problems except 
when a shaft key broke and allowed the shaft to slip. However, the same thing 
could have happened with packing. I would never consider going back to packing.

Bob

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C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
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On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:26 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
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+1 on that; though I have mine for only 9 years.

Marek

1994 #122 ”Legato”

Ottawa, ON

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I've had a PSS shafted, and a DRY bilge for 10 years...think it is great.

Spencer Johnson

84 LF38

Racine, WI

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