When installing a hose to nipple fitting i recomnend using a hair dryer to warm 
the hose and liquid dish soap to lube the nipple barb.

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

Had a similar problem to yours several years ago. After doing most of what you 
have done, my diesel mechanic suggested just replacing the Racor MA 500(?) top 
plate since even a little over tightening can push the middle down enough that 
the O-ring on the circumference will leak enough that after running for a while 
the air inside it gets into the fuel lines.

This was a cheap enough thing to do that I did it—along with a few other 
‘fixes’ and the problem went away.

Since it was not the only change I made, I can’t be certain that the new top 
plate solved the problem or if it was something else.

Note I am pretty sure that the instructions for the Racor say to only hand 
tighten this plate or something similar—I now know why!

Given how little extra tightening it would take at the Center to deflect the 
circumference/O-ring joint enough to suck air in, (probably a few microns could 
break the vacuum seal) and over time you have air bubbles that get to the 
engine or at least prevent fuel from getting to the engine.

FWIW,

Charlie Nelson


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On Thursday, September 23, 2021, 12:36 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
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I meant bypass the Racor, turn on the pump and collect fuel into a secondary 
container to test.  I agree that I would not run the engine that way.  I am 
presuming that the flow of fuel through the filter should be a good test of the 
system since the problem was I was getting air into the primary Racor holder, 
so a vacuum leak likely somewhere.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Neil Andersen 
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I would think that risky.  If the Racor is the issue because it is doing its 
job and there is particulate matter coming from the tank, bypassing it will 
allow the matter to get to the engine.

Neil Andersen
1982 C&C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
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Hi Dennis- The Racor looks OK, but of course that says nothing.  I don’t know 
the Racor model but it is older since it does not have the threaded top that 
you can add a gauge to.  Since that is a more expensive alteration, I thought I 
would replace the fuel lines first and see if that fixes the problem.  If not, 
I thought I would bypass the Racor and see if it works that way and if so, 
replace the Racor itself.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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What type of fuel filter do you have?  If it's a Racor MA500, the top may be 
warped or the gasket may be cracked or displaced.  Those are not infrequent 
issues with that filter.  Either condition could result in air inleakage.


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