So, Dennis, as you can see already, you may have to narrow (filter) the possible choices. There those of us who would highly recommend one of the Rob Ball pre 80 37's or 38's....(same hull) and those who favor later Rob Ball models..........and those who favor the Tartan C&C models.
A reasonable analysis of the "ratings" for most models will turn up several findings. Most boats do not sail to their ratings unless there is an OCD owner who makes sure the boat is absolutely fitted out for racing. And further, for that class. And e.g., I’m not one who would sail with any crew that sailed because of the beer quality.......... You will also have to define "Handicap" racing. If you want to sail "every handicap" race......Wednesdays, weekends, etc. If you pick it too broad, you will get beat in one of those categories by a boat (C&C) specifically fitted for that class and conditions. And then, there is the Testosterone component.................is your crew under the age of 40? Over 65? Etc. Has any of them flown an ASYM and won a race (without you doing anything else but driving?) Is one of your crew (or can you get) a sailmaker on board? Will you turn over all the other crew jobs to the crew and only drive? Or get a driver if you aren't the top choice? Then check race results for the C&C winning boats.............. in general, there are not many of them that win on a regular basis. But those that do, have figured out the best assortment of the above conditions. Then I would check in on your local racing venue handicap "allowances". E.g. Racing or Cruising only?? Usually, +6 seconds for JAM vs Spinnaker..... Declare NO spinnaker pole........+9 seconds Above deck roller furling.........+6 seconds (recreational adjustment for JAM) Working above deck furling is a condition of the JAM rating. I may find an example of one of the best choices.........but I'll have to do some records review. I will report later this week with any results. Best, Ron C. -----Original Message----- From: John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 5:41 PM To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C to race - cold weather discussion topic C&C 115 all day long. I love the older Rob Ball LATE 80's 37 and 34 XL/ R's but they could never match their ratings. Having owned one! 1989 37XL. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:42 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C to race - cold weather discussion topic Dennis, So many variables. Location, prevailing conditions, local coastal or offshore events. I would probably lean towards a 34R with new sails including an Assym and Symmetrical Chute, a baby smooth bottom job, and really good beer so I could attract the best possible crew. And let someone really good drive because I am terrible driving upwind. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 29, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > If one was to buy a C&C to totally trick out for handicap racing, which model > would you buy and why? > > What modifications would you make if you had a bunch of boat bucks? > > !!! Don't forget to trim your responses if this thread builds. !!! > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
