One other item. I don't know if this was changed in later model years, but on the 1978 model the deck had a scupper drains near the toe rail that discharged through thru-hull fittings just below the gunwale. It was quite elaborate to move the water just a few inches away. Make sure the fittings and hoses are in good shape. On my boat, one was located in the compartment behind the electric panel. What a dumb place to put deck water fittings.
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 2:43 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman <jlam...@outlook.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 34 aluminum plates on bulkhead Mack, I also have an 81C&C34. Ditto what Nathan said regarding the SS tabs. No issues on my boat. Do check chain plates, however, all the way down to plywood knee behind settee. Also check around SS tabs at top of forward bulkheads. After 42 years, there will have been leaks somewhere. Jeff Laman 81 C&C34 Harmony Ludington Michigan Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> _____ From: Nathan Post via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 2:31:09 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Nathan Post <nathan8...@gmail.com <mailto:nathan8...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 34 aluminum plates on bulkhead Hello Mack, I have a 1981 C&C 34 and those outboard vertical plates on the bulkheads are stainless steel, not aluminum. I would be very skeptical if any of those components have been replaced with aluminum. These components attach the deck to the bulkheads since to save cost (and allow the molded head liner) the bulkheads were not tabbed in to the deck. I haven't had leaks there on my boat at the point you describe (my genoa tracks seem well sealed). However, the windows are hard to seal and might be leaking and so it is also possible that is where the water is coming from and then dripping down to the bulkhead (I would say that is in fact a likely source of water in that area). Of course also check that the bulkhead isn't rotted. The plates on top of the metal poles close to the main traveler also are a problematic leak point (for me on the starboard side a little water drips down the inside of that tube and ends up under the stove). I would agree that if the bulkhead is rotted beyond repair and needs to be replaced that might be a deal breaker. Regardless you definitely want to check the whole deck for soft spots - around the head vent, chain plates and penetrations for the bulkhead attachments were the main problems on my boat (where I replaced the core in 2020 - see https://photos.app.goo.gl/8W4AdgmKqKxARvsY7 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphotos.app .goo.gl%2F8W4AdgmKqKxARvsY7&data=05%7C01%7C%7C864c999c97f94bd493ee08db03c1d3 1b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638107903263855555%7CUnknown %7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M n0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NZBtxmi%2F7a3n%2BBZUnau9qFzn3Jx%2BxQJYfBv2cUxVpc Q%3D&reserved=0> if you are curious about what I did). All repairable but good to know what you are getting into as it is a big project (I also glassed a lot of old holes that weren't needed and rebedded almost all the deck hardware, replaced the fixed windows, rebuilt the forward hatch, and added a bow roller and asym tack point https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN46y4vVixlceiv3AjB6UPNMGJqgTuuwxos4pob Hlp1XsBQnteV-IcwYMBlBfcjXw?key=aTVDcEFMX3dzVFVSeFZVY256WWs5bkYtSlpWM2hR <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphotos.goo gle.com%2Fshare%2FAF1QipN46y4vVixlceiv3AjB6UPNMGJqgTuuwxos4pobHlp1XsBQnteV-I cwYMBlBfcjXw%3Fkey%3DaTVDcEFMX3dzVFVSeFZVY256WWs5bkYtSlpWM2hR&data=05%7C01%7 C%7C864c999c97f94bd493ee08db03c1d31b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1% 7C0%7C638107903263855555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjo iV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5RI6Df%2FL80Pj IgQIT7qAIpbfyP7Y1GS2Pf4VNZIdzZg%3D&reserved=0> as part of the project). Feel free to reach out if you have other questions on the boat. Nathan S/V Wisper 1981 C&C 34 KCB Portland ME On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 1:33 PM Mack McKinney via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Hi everyone! I'm seriously considering purchasing a 1980 C&C 34. I have yet to make an in-person inspection, as the boat is 4 hours away, but in pictures I notice attached to the partial bulkheads which separate the settees from the galley/nav area there are what appear to be chainplates. Those aluminum plates are rather far aft for any standing rigging. Their purpose, I reckon, is to reinforce the genoa track (correct me if I'm way off, and these are distinguished from the aluminum tubes which, I suppose, reinforce the mainsheet traveler. So, here's my question: there is noticeable water incursion, as there is some streaking on the port bulkhead below the "chainplate." I assume I need to be prepared for deck core rot, and possible rot in the teak plywood of the bulkhead. The extent of any rot, if it requires the replacement of that bulkhead, may be a deal-breaker. Thoughts? Am I on the right track? Thanks, Mack Formerly C&C 30-104 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal .me%2Fstumurray&data=05%7C01%7C%7C864c999c97f94bd493ee08db03c1d31b%7C84df9e7 fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638107903263855555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb 3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000 %7C%7C%7C&sdata=4CMXP6pUquVGR%2FQScpMo4eV3%2FEPdSsQqZ7zeTJSs2MM%3D&reserved= 0> Thanks for your help. Stu
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