> On Nov 19, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev > <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > I have been poking around on developer.apple.com, trying to get the big > picture on the future of Cocoa for Mac. Ditto for the future of big apps. >
Send an email to Aaron Hillegass. He might be able to give you an educated guess about the remaining life of the Cocoa frameworks in Objective-C and the future of big apps on the Mac. Let us know if you hear back from him and what he tells you. https://academy.realm.io/posts/altconf-aaron-hillegass-eulogy-for-objective-c/ You could submit a developer technical support incident to Apple and ask them point blank how much longer they will be supporting the Cocoa frameworks in Objective-C. Let us know if you hear back from them assuming the answer is not under a non-disclosure agreement. > > It's all SwiftUI and Swift. > If I understand it correctly, there is a linkage between Swift and Objective-C. Apple devised a way to call the Cocoa frameworks written in Objective-C from the Swift language using the magic of the LLVM compiler. A great question would be is possible for Apple to pull the Objective-C rug out from underneath the Cocoa frameworks leaving only a Swift implementation? Carbon was a completely different animal. Apple pulled, so to speak, the core out of Foundation and came up with Core Foundation to give life and interoperability for the Carbon layer. However NOTHING of lasting value was built on the Carbon layer. The whole Carbon thing can be swept away and what difference does it make. When committing to 64 bit Apple said NO to Carbon but YES to Cocoa and YES to Core Foundation and YES to a lot of other stuff. The OS still has the XNU (Mach) Kernel and FreeBSD (written in C & C++), the Cocoa frameworks (base layer written in Objective-C), Swift and lots of other stuff. From my point of view I do not see Apple sweeping away Objective-C and the Cocoa frameworks any time soon. Essentially they said as much in their 64-Bit Transition Guide. https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/64bitPorting/HighLevelAPIs/HighLevelAPIs.html --Richard Charles _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
