On 4 Dec 2002, David Crossley wrote:

> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > David Crossley wrote:
> <snip/>
> >
> > How would you define 'active committer'?
> > By CVS commit rates?
> > By RTs?
> > By mail posts/replies?
> >
> > ATM I don't fall in none of these categories but still like to
> > be in the PMC.
>
> Some time ago we used to have a committers list at cocoon/who.html
> which was just one long list of all committers. Then cocoon-dev
> decided to categorise that into three types of committer "active",
> "in-active" and "emeritus".

Yes, I remember.

> Actually, i do not want to define "committer categories" when we
> are talking about PMC membership. I want all committers to be
> invited. This is the resolution that we have arrived at elsewhere
> in this thread.

The word "committer" itself is misleading for us CVS aware people ;) (a
committer issues CVS commits).

> > > So, we need to define very carefully what constitutes a PMC
> > > member and how/when PMC members are considered to be retired.
> > > We must get this whole PMC setup correct from the beginning.
> >
> > I have the impression you'd like to exclude volunteers if they
> > don't have
> > a measurable weight (which ever this might be)? Why so, or did I
> > misunderstud your concerns by 'We must get this whole PMC setup
> > correct from the beginning'?
>
> You did mis-understand my concerns. Actually, i do want to ensure
> that no-one is ever excluded, either now or in the future. The
> previous proposal to only have "active committers" on the PMC,
> was what i was disputing.

Ok. I see it this way. As soon a someone committs itself to the PMS it
*is* an active committer, don't you?

> If we do not clearly define what constitutes PMC membership, then
> we risk confusion later.

Yes, sure. Being part of the PMC is a 'committment' :)

Giacomo


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