Ok,

I agree with your answer. I know who are Carsten Ziegeler and Matthew
Langham. I know that they are very important persons for Cocoon (as many
others are).

> Hm... In this case we are all speculating on Cocoon: one uses it to make
> easier his paid work, another one to get some profit from consulting, the
> thirds are writing books and every usage of Cocoon directly or indirectly
> pays back to the community by promoting Cocoon, improving it, etc.

My e-mail is for pointing out that all our actions should be done only for
the improvement of cocoon. We all love cocoon: I have seen some people's
names for almost two years in the Cooon User List.

If the book, as I hope, is published for promoting Cocoon, for improving it,
well I am proud to know Carsten and Matthew and I applaud them.



Marco

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Software engineer  Spinetti Marco
Italy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Konstantin Piroumian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted


> From: "marco spinetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > One question: is the profit for the apache software foundation (ASF)?
> >
> > If not, in my opinion it's against the open source apache philosophy.
> >
> > Cocoon is borned as open source project and then all is free.
>
> Yes, you don't pay to use Cocoon. But nobody prevents you to provide
> commersial support for it. More over, if I understand the Apache license
> correctly: you can even modify it and distribute if the license conditions
> are met.
>
> >
> > Are you a member of people that created Cocoon?
>
> Don't tell this to Carsten Ziegeler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Cocoon's
> Release Manager - who is the co-author of the book. And Matthew Langham
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] is his boss, if my information is correct, aren't
you
> Matthew? ;).
>
> > Have you received the assent from ASF or people as Stefano Mazzocchi?
> >
> > If yes all is ok, otherwise in my opinion you are speculating on Cocoon.
>
> Hm... In this case we are all speculating on Cocoon: one uses it to make
> easier his paid work, another one to get some profit from consulting, the
> thirds are writing books and every usage of Cocoon directly or indirectly
> pays back to the community by promoting Cocoon, improving it, etc.
>
> Konstantin
>
> >
> >
> > Marco
> >
> >
> > +---------------------------------------------------------------+
> > Software engineer  Spinetti Marco
> > Italy
> > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Langham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > >>
> > By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
> > accurate?
> > <<
> > Yes.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> > --
> > Open Source Group       Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects }
> > =================================================================
> > Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Cocoon book:
> >   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20
> > =================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:54 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
> >
> >
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > I'm new to Cocoon but have many years software engineering experience. I
> > assume your book is of an introductory nature and, if so, I would be
keen
> to
> > review some chapters.
> >
> > By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
> > accurate?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Langham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:35 PM
> > Subject: Cocoon book reviewers wanted
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > together with our publisher (www.newriders.com), we are looking for
> people
> > > interested in reviewing chapters from our book. Hopefully you will
have
> > > something positive to say and then your quote may be used in the book
or
> > to
> > > promote it.
> > >
> > > If you would be interested then please send me an email. Please note
> that
> > we
> > > will only be able to suggest (!!) reviewers - our publisher will
choose.
> > And
> > > probably only a few of those in the end.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Open Source Group       Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects }
> > > =================================================================
> > > Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > > Tel:+49-5251-1581-30  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Cocoon book:
> > >   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20
> > > =================================================================
> > >
> > >
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