> > >My e-mail is for pointing out that all our actions should be done only for >the improvement of cocoon. We all love cocoon: I have seen some people's >names for almost two years in the Cooon User List. > > Dude, using Cocoon commercially for your own benifit, benefits Cocoon. Writing a book and keeping the measly profit (that is in no way adequate compensation for the time and effort taken to write such a book), seriously benefits Cocoon.
>If the book, as I hope, is published for promoting Cocoon, for improving it, >well I am proud to know Carsten and Matthew and I applaud them. > > And I hope they make some serious Benjamins (or whatever the appropriate European slang term is for cash) in the process. Though fat chance of that. Don't get GNU-brainwashed, not everyone believes benefitting financially from opensource is immoral. -Andy > > >Marco > >+---------------------------------------------------------------+ >Software engineer Spinetti Marco >Italy >+---------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Konstantin Piroumian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:36 PM >Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted > > > > >>From: "marco spinetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>>One question: is the profit for the apache software foundation (ASF)? >>> >>>If not, in my opinion it's against the open source apache philosophy. >>> >>>Cocoon is borned as open source project and then all is free. >>> >>> >>Yes, you don't pay to use Cocoon. But nobody prevents you to provide >>commersial support for it. More over, if I understand the Apache license >>correctly: you can even modify it and distribute if the license conditions >>are met. >> >> >> >>>Are you a member of people that created Cocoon? >>> >>> >>Don't tell this to Carsten Ziegeler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Cocoon's >>Release Manager - who is the co-author of the book. And Matthew Langham >>[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] is his boss, if my information is correct, aren't >> >> >you > > >>Matthew? ;). >> >> >> >>>Have you received the assent from ASF or people as Stefano Mazzocchi? >>> >>>If yes all is ok, otherwise in my opinion you are speculating on Cocoon. >>> >>> >>Hm... In this case we are all speculating on Cocoon: one uses it to make >>easier his paid work, another one to get some profit from consulting, the >>thirds are writing books and every usage of Cocoon directly or indirectly >>pays back to the community by promoting Cocoon, improving it, etc. >> >>Konstantin >> >> >> >>>Marco >>> >>> >>>+---------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>Software engineer Spinetti Marco >>>Italy >>>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Matthew Langham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:02 AM >>>Subject: RE: Cocoon book reviewers wanted >>> >>> >>>Hi Paul >>> >>> >>> >>>By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that >>>accurate? >>><< >>>Yes. >>> >>>Matthew >>> >>>-- >>>Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } >>>================================================================= >>>Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn >>>Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de >>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Cocoon book: >>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 >>>================================================================= >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Paul Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:54 AM >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted >>> >>> >>>Hi Matthew, >>> >>>I'm new to Cocoon but have many years software engineering experience. I >>>assume your book is of an introductory nature and, if so, I would be >>> >>> >keen > > >>to >> >> >>>review some chapters. >>> >>>By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that >>>accurate? >>> >>>Paul >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Matthew Langham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:35 PM >>>Subject: Cocoon book reviewers wanted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>together with our publisher (www.newriders.com), we are looking for >>>> >>>> >>people >> >> >>>>interested in reviewing chapters from our book. Hopefully you will >>>> >>>> >have > > >>>>something positive to say and then your quote may be used in the book >>>> >>>> >or > > >>>to >>> >>> >>>>promote it. >>>> >>>>If you would be interested then please send me an email. Please note >>>> >>>> >>that >> >> >>>we >>> >>> >>>>will only be able to suggest (!!) reviewers - our publisher will >>>> >>>> >choose. > > >>>And >>> >>> >>>>probably only a few of those in the end. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Matthew >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } >>>>================================================================= >>>>Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn >>>>Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de >>>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Cocoon book: >>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 >>>>================================================================= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >>>>FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >>>FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> >>> >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >>>FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> >>> >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >>>FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> >>> >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >>FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> >> >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>