On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 02:28:53PM -0500, Alocin wrote:
> About the *.user.undernet.org and the fact that it is nice to protect
> yourself against attacks, it is also a pain for channel ops to find out who
> is doing what and to find out to whom they should complain if they want to
> inform an ISP (...)
> 
> The fact that a ban is still usefull for banning a person even if they
> masquerade their host is nice... if you can find that true host!  And with
> the fact that flooders will register 30 false login it is a real pain to
> live with ...
> 
> Anyway, my point is:
> 
> why not put a privilege on the whois request done by a op on a user on his
> channel?
> 
> It would reduce the abuse on multiregistering because there would be many
> less use for it AND it would let users act upon flooders if they join the
> channel where they are op by maybe contacting the ISP (...)
> 
> The fact that a person decide to join a channel is still his own choice, so
> it will not impact on the desire to protect a user privacy or security... If
> they join a channel they accept to obey by the rules of the channel and to
> allow acces to their true host to the ops, nothing bad in that.
> 
> So, to be clear, what i am suggesting is:
> 
> For everyone, the whois of Someone would still look like
> 
> SomeUser is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * something
> SomeUser on #chan1 #chan2
> SomeUser using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
> SomeUser End of /WHOIS list.
> 
> Except for ops on #chan1 or #chan2 that would see:
> 
> SomeUser is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * something
> SomeUser on #chan1 #chan2
> SomeUser using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
> SomeUser End of /WHOIS list.
> 
> 
> I will also add that this would not compromise CPU usage very much... Or if
> this is something you absolutly want to avoid, use the same principle that
> was use for cprivmsg... i dislike the idea of having to use a new command,
> but even that would at least help me free the channels where i am op of
> those
> «kiddies-that-didn't-got-their-x-box-for-christmas-so-the-world-must-suffer»
> type of users...
> 
> 
> Tank you for your interest.. reply/suggestions welcome :o)
> 
> 
> - Alocin
> 
> 
> p.s.: There is other possibilities, like adding a 'join comment' stating the
> host to the ops only... (there is already a 'part comment' so the syntax is
> already in place) and that would eventualy reduce the need for client to use
> secondary commands to generate an internal user list. Or/and the WHO could
> be modified in the same way...

Sounds like a very good idea to me.

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