well i'd love to see a g:line for 1 day for an IP that is abusing on the
instance of

1) excessive clonage
2) spamming
3) abusive botnet runner
4) other forms of severe abuse

then on the 2nd instance of an abuse, then it gets 2 days, soon enough you
will single out the known and repeated abusers and their IP's
especially good for those nasty drones, and eventually luckily enough for us
these IP's which are abusing will grow day by day (1d, 2d, 3d, 4d, .... etc
get my drift?) in g:lines and so their ability to re-abuse is limited and
eventually stopped at the front door.

flipside ? well you may capture a few innocent people, but hey, having there
been a few innocents in the ISP/country/regions bans already in the past?
sad to say such is life, I'd rather see 90,000 happy campers and 500 unhappy
innocent campers, then 110,000 harassed campers by massive drones and botnet
flooding and the like ...

but then again .... seems that this won't even happen, but it's a good idea
to get stats and regions of these abusers and sooner rather than later
perhaps these unresponsive ISP's who don't care much about the type of abuse
and traffic going through them, or abuse direct by their customers, will be
forced to care due to those *innocent* customers leaving their service
because that ISP has been blacklisted so to speak. at the end of the day,
ISP's need customers to survive, if they don't have happy campers and they
leave over a abuse g:line on an irc network then maybe a better response
will be forthcoming from the ISP's.

but , then again, how many people have seen the ISP's Admins turn out to be
the abusers themselves? , i for one have seen literally hundreds ....

Regards

- wensu
----- Original Message -----
From: "bas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] suggestion of a WHOIS modification


> > You also give the perfect rpotection to pples wanting to do any illegal
activities at all...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Alocin
>
> if someone does something really bad, such as bringing 30 clones and
> flood, it can be against the net policy so the chanop who has logged
> everything can contact an IRCop, the real IP's can be found and G-lined,
> ISP can be contacted etc.

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