On 4/3/02 3:15 PM, "Morgan Delagrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 4/3/02 2:45 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, that's true. I didn't realize that it >> o.a.c.l was actually a logging >>>> framework.... I thought it was an interface we >> could write to in order to >>>> isolate ourselves from changing logger >> preferences... >>> >>> It's a logging API, with interfaces you can use to >> isolated from the >>> logger implementation. >>> >> >> However, it seems that the Log.getLogger(foo) >> pattern is what people have to >> use, or are expected to use? >> > > Is that not also the case with Log4J and JDK 1.4? Literally, yes - however, I am more than happy to write things where only the app/container/framework/servlet interacts with the logger, and then has a generic wrapping interface that it passes to subsystems/components such that the pieces that can log don't know about the implementation to which they are logging. That's what I think you want o.a.c.l to be... We have the same notion in Velocity - we define the interface that you can use, and do an impl around log4j and logkit. (as well as a bitbucket and stderr impls as well). But you as the app writer can also implement that interface on whatever logger you are using, such as something you already have in your application servers, and pass that to velocity to use.... > Only the Avalon logger has a notion of IoC AFAIK. It > seems odd to be supporting IoC logging in > commons-logging, when we know that all of our other > components will not be able to utilize it. > Then commons logging should not have public interfaces. It should only be available to anything living in the o.a.c package, because you appear to be forcing a usage pattern upon anyone that implements the interface... If you want to put draw a line in the sand for people to use as *the* generic logging interface for *general* use, it shouldn't prohibit IoC. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting The question is : What is a Mahnamahna? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
