I don't have any objection to Latka/Anteater integration. It's actually something I've been meaning to re-open, since using Jelly makes Latka both more JUnit and Ant-friendly.
--- James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to bring up such an old thread. I've just > committed a patch supplied > by Robert Leftwich which allows some easy testing of > servlet request using a > Jelly library which uses an embedded Jetty server. > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-commons-sandbox/jelly/src/test/org/apa > che/commons/jelly/jetty/defaultServer.jelly?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.vi > ewcvs-markup > > It got me thinking; I've always kept an eye on Latka > and Anteater and it > seems like they are getting closer and closer each > day. Both use some degree > of Ant, Jelly, Maven. > > To make unit testing of Jelly easy, JellyUnit got > created which has JUnit > integration, assertions, expression support, XPath > validation and schema > validation (DTD, RelaxNG and XML Schema). Maybe > JellyUnit might have some > use to both Latka and Anteater to help them fit into > a JUnit framework (if > they don't already do that). > Then folks started adding HTTP client and HTTP > server tags to Jelly thats > starting to blur the lines even more. > > So now we have 3 projects with some overlap. I guess > Cactus might overlap > here too. I get the feeling all these different > projects are starting to > travel in the same direction. I'm just wondering > what peoples thoughts were > on having some possible integration or sharing of > code across the various > projects? > > I'm not exactly sure how or what should happen. > Sometimes code should stay > seperate as it just makes life easier. I just wanted > to open a dialog really > to see if we can think of ways to share or reuse > code or somehow work > together to solve the same goals. > > James > ------- > http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:57 AM > Subject: Re: Latka & Anteater > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 10:26:47PM -0500, Ivelin > Ivanov wrote: > > > > > > Can some of the Latka experts please comment on > how Latka compares to > > > Anteater (which emerged from Cocoon)? > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/aft/ > > > > I've worked on both projects, and like both for > different reasons. > > > > Latka pros: > > - Strong typing via a DTD. > > - Internally, it's got a very nice > delegating-SAX-handler model for > > adding new elements. > > - Decent XML reporting. > > - After all Dion's work, it's docs are rather > good. > > > > Latka cons: > > - A PITA to compile, due to it's many > dependencies. Hopefully that's > > changed with Maven. > > - The XML file is a bit hard to comprehend at > first, due to the use of > > &entities; > > - Inflexible XML syntax (see below for definition > of 'flexible':) > > > > > > Anteater pros: > > - It's based on Ant (it's really a bunch of Ant > tasks). This makes it > > wonderfully flexible: > > - I can parametrize tests, by defining > variables like ${host}, > > ${port}, ${debuglevel} as properties, and > reuse them throughout the > > script. > > - Through the use of targets, I can group tests > together, and with > > the 'depends' attribute, can have common > groups of tests. Latka's > > approach (entities) is workable but not half > as nice & intuitive. > > - I can <echo> whenever I want, or <fail> > halfway through a test. > > - I can use Ant's <parallel> to test multiple > servers at once. > > - I can capture the matched <regexp> or <xpath> > value as a property, > > and print it out for debugging. > > - I can do conditional logic, eg "If response > code is 200, do a > > <regexp> test, else if response code is 404, > set the ${failed} > > variable, else <fail> the test". > > > > - It supports testing of interactive services > like SOAP, which need to > > hold a 'conversation' with another HTTP server. > It does this by > > launching an embedded Tomcat instance, and then > registering > > 'listeners' which validate incoming requests > and return specified > > responses. Apart from SOAP/web services > testing, this allows one to > > 'unit test' a website: have an Ant script > launch the webapp, test it > > and shut it down again. > > > > Here's how you'd launch a Tomcat, and then send > a query to > > it. Both the request and response are validated > with <match> tags: > > > > <servletContainer port="8101"/> > > > > <http description="Test the regexp matcher"> > > <parallel> > > <listener path="/good.html"> > > <match> > > <method value="GET"/> > > <sendResponse > href="test/responses/good.html" /> > > </match> > > </listener> > > > > <sequential> > > <sleep seconds="1"/> > > <httpRequest path="/good.html"> > > <match> > > <regexp mustMatch="false" > assign="n">exception</regexp> <!-- > mustn't contain the text 'exception' --> > > <regexp > assign="m"><![CDATA[.*<html>.*<body.*<p.*You sent > the proper > request.*</p>.*</body>.*</html>]]></regexp> > > </match> > > </httpRequest> > > </sequential> > > </parallel> > > </http> > > > > > > Anteater cons: > > - Being based on Ant, Anteater is 'loosely > typed', ie scripts aren't > > checked against a DTD. > > - It's not 1.0-quality yet. Ie, the README file > is misleading, and you > > must symlink build/anteater-0.9.x to > build/anteater in order to run > > the tests. The docs in CVS are rapidly > approaching Latka quality, but > > not on the website yet, so it's best to learn > by example (see > > test.xml). > > - I don't think there is any XML reporting > mechanism beyond Ant's > > standard ability to attach project listeners, > which may not provide > > sufficient detail (I haven't tested). > > > > > > Btw, there's no reason why Anteater and Latka > couldn't share a common > > API for 'validators'. I'd like to try this, but > for now it's less effort > > just to duplicate them (there's not that many). > > > > > > HTH, > > > > --Jeff > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:commons-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:commons-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:commons-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:commons-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > ===== Morgan Delagrange http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs http://jakarta.apache.org/commons http://axion.tigris.org http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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