So it seems like the point is not "ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea", but rather "Reflection classes in beanutils: a bad idea". It's inappropriate to -1 adding ConstructorUtils to beanutils on the basis of scope, since that is where such classes currently belong. If you want to move reflection code out of beanutils, let's do it all at once with a proper discussion and vote, not piecemeal via guerilla vetoes.
Personally, beanutils seems like a logical home for both of these classes, and I haven't seen the convincing argument for moving them. So I'm -1 on moving them at this time. - Morgan --- robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 03:25 PM, Rodney > Waldhoff wrote: > > <snip> > > > Looking through the archives, I now see the thread > named > > "[beanutils][lang][PROPOSAL] deprecated beanutils > version of MethodUtils" > > [1] which apparently should have been flagged > "[VOTE]", if that was > > intended to be a binding vote. > > no, that thread wasn't binding. that's one reason > why i wanted to try to > engage you in debate rather than just -1'ing the > commit straight away :) > > > I'd be OK with leaving beanutils as the repository > for reflection oriented > > stuff. In light of this thread, I think I'd > prefer to create true > > reflection oriented commons component. I'm > strongly opposed to moving a > > bunch of stuff into lang because it seems somehow > central or widely > > applicable. I'd rather see a bunch of focused > modules with well defined > > scope (however tiny) than a grand utilties > framework, and my reading of > > the commons charter says it agrees with me. > > though i agree about your point in general, the > reflection code fits > perfectly into lang's spec. they are utility classes > for package java.lang. > reflect. > > AFAIK class and reflect(ion?) were intended to be > introspection-alternatives. they need to rely on > solid, low level > reflection utilities. > > - robert > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ===== Morgan Delagrange http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs http://jakarta.apache.org/commons http://axion.tigris.org http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
