> Jon, Paul - this is all seeming a little painful to make useful  
> progress working within Jakarta Commons. Adding 1 non-apache committer  
> to a sandbox project seems too hard right now - we're stuck in a  
> chicken and egg - some don't want non-apache committers working in the  
> sandbox and some don't want us promoting a project to commons proper so  
> we can add a new committer.
> 
> Why don't we just scrap commons-attributes in the sandbox and move the  
> project over to codehaus.org instead? Its certainly the easiest option.

We're using commons-attributes in AltRMI (Incubator). To switch and use a codehaus 
module is that
OK politically? The solution is certainly viable though.  The loss to Apache would be 
large.
Cannot we try to persuade people here that the catch-22 is worth overcoming?

- Paul

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