james - if you feel so strongly, then you might consider voting in jon through the pmc with jakarta-commons-sandbox privileges. (there can be no doubt that the pmc has the right to do this.)
forking the code base is another perfectly valid solution. or someone could approach the incubator (or apache commons) where the rules are different.
on the other hand, the effort to prepare commons-attributes shouldn't be too great (i've done it for a few other components) especially given the plan that jon proposes. i'd volunteer myself but i really, really don't have time at the moment.
- robert
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
Jon, Paul - this is all seeming a little painful to make useful progress working within Jakarta Commons. Adding 1 non-apache committer to a sandbox project seems too hard right now - we're stuck in a chicken and egg - some don't want non-apache committers working in the sandbox and some don't want us promoting a project to commons proper so we can add a new committer.
Why don't we just scrap commons-attributes in the sandbox and move the project over to codehaus.org instead? Its certainly the easiest option.
We're using commons-attributes in AltRMI (Incubator). To switch and use a codehaus module is that
OK politically? The solution is certainly viable though. The loss to Apache would be large.
Cannot we try to persuade people here that the catch-22 is worth overcoming?
- Paul
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