Sorry, but I still am not seeing the need here.  There is very little commons-user 
traffic related to [math].  My understanding is that the http-client split was driven 
by high traffic.  Commons-dev and commons-user benefit from a large community who 
comment / make suggestions on multiple components.  I am opposed to splitting j-c 
components into separate lists / projects unless the traffic reaches the "bothersome" 
level. 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Mark R. Diggory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 11:58 AM 
        To: Jakarta Commons Developers List 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: [all] Math needs a "user" email list.
        
        

        >
        >
        >On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Mark R. Diggory wrote:
        >
        > 
        >
        >>> Would it be wise to establish a Jakarta Math project outside of commons
        >>> to support these sort of listserv interactions with users, even though
        >>> its unclear what code would be housed there? Or should we only start a
        >>> parent project if we have non-commons specific code to add to it and
        >>> just creat a email list specific for math users? I'm not sure what would
        >>> be the best approach.
        >>>
        >>> -Mark
        >>   
        >>
        >
        >I'd suggest going to the commons-math-user mail list, and seeing what
        >happens. If the community grows, then we can go in the direction the
        >community's makeup suggests.
        >
        >Hen
        > 
        >
        
        +1, Following a path similar to HttpClient.
        
        
        > Phil Steitz wrote:
        >
        >I agree with Henri on this -- I do not see the need at present and I would 
like to keep commons-user (which is not that high traffic, actually) consolidated.  
People can easily filter, as they can on commons-dev as well.
        >
        >Phil
        >
        
        Phil, Its unclear to what your agreeing? Hen was +0. Your comment sounds
        like your not wanting it (ie -0).
        
        I strongly think the reason that commons-user is low traffic is that
        users do not want to get email for stuff they are not interested in nor
        do they want to manage complex filter rules on their email, so they
        never join it.
        
        Believe me, I've worked IT support for university professors, sometimes
        I'm very surprised they even know what an email account is...let alone
        filtering.
        
        -Mark
        
        --
        Mark R. Diggory
        Software Developer
        Harvard MIT Data Center
        http://www.hmdc.harvard.edu
        
        
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