On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Michael McGrady wrote:
> Kim van der Linde wrote: > > >--- Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>It seems that you are missing the single most > >>important facet of Jakarta Commons here - community. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>Commons is one community, > >> > >> > > > >A community from whom? Whom are in it? Only hard-core > >developers? Or the developers and users at large? > >Apparently, I have a different idea about e-mail lists > >than most here. So be it. Before people's heckles get raised etc, it's probably best to let you know why there are differing opinions to your (quite acceptable) view. Commons is a project in which a single community creates many smaller components, gaining from the cross-pollination from different segments of the community. I don't think there's a single developer who works on every part (ignoring changes to the build-system/site etc), so we're all viewing slices of the community. For example, although I like to get involved with lots of Commons, [jelly] is something I get a lot of noise from and don't use. Now, this idea of a community with internal cross-pollination has a problem. Mailing lists aren't really able to handle the cross-pollination, especially as it gets larger. I fully believe that as Commons Math grows in user community, we will increasingly see that it does not intersect with the Commons community as much as other components and we'll consider moving it out, but right now [math] has not even released at 1.0 and it doesn't have that community yet. It might be a trite, oft-said thing of open-source, but the best way to lessen the noise for [math] is actually to help it outgrow Commons :) Or more likely with [math] (as there will always be a desire for a simple Math.jar), help it foster other similar style components. Anyway, hopefully that will explain the community a bit better and why [math] has to climb a steep gradient to follow HttpClient out of Commons. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
