OK, well I had a discussion last night with some folks from the incubator
PMC and frankly it upset me. It was one of those evenings when you realise
how crap organisations can be and makes you wonder why you bother with them
:( I really wasn't impressed.

In fact to give you an idea, the overriding suggestion that came out was
(paraphrased) "go to sourceforge and when you have a community and code then
we'll think about adding you to the incubator".

So, basically that's the only option that the esteemed ASF incubuator
project appears to offer.

I'd suggest therefore that you take the discussion back to JG and work on it
there as at least you seem to have some peope who are interested in it there
:(

I wish I could bring myself to be more enthusiastic, but I really don't see
the point of having the incubator at this moment in time.

david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Community@Apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [i18n] Internationalization project


>
> David - sorry - my intention wasn't to invite people to Jakarta General
from here, but to see where it should be moved, somewhere "above" JG, as
indicated by the discussions there.  If this is to possibly become a
top-level Apache project, where should it be discussed?  (Up to now, I've
primarily been following Jakarta discussions, since that's the only code
I've contributed to so far).
>
> Andrew - sorry - I hadn't realized that the Community list wasn't open to
everyone.  If we are to keep the discussion on a list that is open to
everyone, where would that be?
>
> TIA.
> Robert Simpson
>
> David Reid wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Thanks for cross-porting, but please don't try to invite people to
> > jakarta-general@ from this list! This list has a wider audience and as
any
> > internationalization project will fail in it's objectives unless it is
used
> > across the entire of the ASF the community@ list would appear to make
more
> > sense for these discussions. The fact that the discussion rose to this
list
> > from the jakarta-general@ list is a good sign of it's intended
direction, so
> > please don't try to reverse that now.The aim of community@ was to foster
a
> > sense of greater community within the ASF, not to provide a recuiting
ground
> > for jakarta-general@ or any other such list :)
> >
> > I really don't think placing such a project anywhere but the incubator
makes
> > sense...
> >
> > david
>
>
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