On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 01:05, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > > Unrelated to whether or not we would use it, I think that blojsom could > be a > > > very nice ASF project. From what I have seen of it, I'd support its > entry > > > to the Incubator. > > > Does it seem sensible to take an already successful ASL licensed, > > community developed piece of software by an already successful > > open source developer and force it into a somewhat beta status by > > making it go through the incubator "just because that is the way > > things are done"? > > The Incubator's purpose is to ensure that projects coming into the ASF > > - are legally clean, > - that their communities are healthy, > - and that they follow basic ASF policies/procedures. > > In my opinion, some projects are spending too long in the Incubator because > they aren't focusing on getting out.
Also, define too long. I think that an external project* coming to the ASF has quite a lot of stuff to process. Getting out within a month would surprise me. *) As in, no affilliation with the ASF, no ASF committers there at all, etc. > If a project is a successful, ASF license, community-developed piece of > software, then it need not stay long in the Incubator. However, ASF > projects are supposed to be developed by communities, because it is > important that the project survive beyond the interests of any particular > participant. That is why two of the purposes for Incubation are to ensure > that there is a healthy developing COMMUNITY, and that it is following basic > ASF policies. > > Cocoon's Lenya project and XML's XMLBeans project are far from "beta > status." And the same can be said for SpamAssassin. The SA crowd is cool to work with. They are making an effort to get the steps done to become a full ASF project. I remember a comment from one of them about incubation being more useful then he originally thought. That made me smile. > As noted by multiple projects in the Incubator: "Incubation is > required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates > that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have > stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While > incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or > stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully > endorsed by the ASF." > > Endorsement by the ASF is based upon with the belief that a project's IP is > clean, and that it has developed a healthy community that will ensure its > long term viability. We incubate projects to ensure those things, not for > ceremony or "just because that is the way things are done." +1. Sander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
