these things have definitions, folks. everything isn't everything else.
s. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Willemien <wilem...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I disagree with the point that MCTS is a neural network, > > In my opinion (and i maybe completely off target) One of the essences > of neural networks is that the program changes/learns from the games > it has played. . > > MCTS doesn't have that result, the improvement is only "in-game" > The program doesn't learn not to make the same mistake anymore, by > MCTS the mistake is hopefully avoided. > > if MTCS is a neyural network than alpha beta would also qualify. > > but i may be wrong it is just an opening for a discussion in which we > all can learn > > > 2009/11/2 Daniel Burgos <dbur...@gmail.com>: >> Well, at its esence a computer is an universal Turing Machine. If you >> organize the program as a neural network or as a MC algorithm is just >> cosmetics. >> >> You can see the circuits of your computer as neurons simulating a Von >> Neumann architecture that is simulating a neural network or a MC or >> whatever. An may be your whatever is simulating another thing. >> >> 2009/11/2 Álvaro Begué <alvaro.be...@gmail.com> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Aldric Giacomoni <ald...@trevoke.net> >>> wrote: >>> > Álvaro Begué wrote: >>> >> 2009/10/31 <compgo...@aol.com>: >>> >>> Present day MC Go programs are neural networks. The playout is the >>> >>> trainng >>> >>> process. >>> >> >>> >> What? >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> computer-go mailing list >>> >> computer-go@computer-go.org >>> >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>> > >>> > Go programs using the Monte-Carlo algorithms are neural networks. The >>> > actual >>> > fact of playing games is what trains them to play better. >>> > >>> > ... I'm pretty sure that's what it means, anyway. >>> >>> Except they don't fit any definition of "neural network" that I've >>> been able to find. For starters, they don't have neurons. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> computer-go mailing list >>> computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
