Many Faces of Go gives reasons for its moves after fact.  It reasons about the 
position using go proverbs, life and death analysis, group strength and 
connection information, etc.  If you have a copy, you can ask it to explain its 
reasons for making a move.  There were far more than a few efforts in this 
direction.  Many people spent decades on this problem.  This approach has been 
explored thoroughly and it doesn’t work.  

 

I believed in this approach as strongly as you do, for many years, before the 
data proved it to be a false belief.

 

We now know how to make much stronger programs with far less effort.

 

Of you are welcome to try again, and I would be really happy to see a strong 
program using this kind of approach.  Do have a plan to write some code or this 
just philosophy?

 

Regards,

 

David

 

From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of 
djhbrown .
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:48 AM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

 

Plans, evaluation functions, ect failed for over 20 years to produce true 
(amateur) dan level programs. 


True.  However, the failure of a few efforts to make progress in a direction 
does not imply that the direction is a dead end.  I will be addressing this 
issue in a future video in the series.

Also, you cannot give reasons for moves "after the fact" if reason wasn't used 
to obtain the selected move in the first place.

 

Exactly so.  As stated in "Life and Death", the principal research objective of 
HALy is for it to be able to formulate and explain its reasons.  I feel that 
the domain of Go is a useful microworld for experimenting with perception and 
reasoning representations.

Current research in volition and conscious choice
indicates that conscious choice is actually an after the fact explanation
of decisions based on unconscious processes.

 

Yes indeed.  This suggests that science is just beginning to discover that 
philosophical intuitions about consciousness based on no experimentation at all 
are mere speculations.

I think you forgot to suggest which pharmaceuticals, legal or otherwise, to be 
using while watching this. Without said pharmacological assistance, that video 
doesn't make a bit of sense to me.

 

I am unaware of any chemicals that could viably substitute for doing a bit of 
homework.  I would be happy to explain any specific issues outside the domain 
of computer go that you do not understand if you raise them in a YouTube 
comment.  I am aware that the video touches on several myths whose historical 
origins and current implications are not common knowledge.

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