I've wondered something along these lines...why are we creating yet another system when there are already half a dozen? Yet one more large bureaucracy when we should consolidate the others.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. < acker...@astrecg.com> wrote: > The debate is, as usual, between those who do (at least a little) research > to discern the facts and those who determine the situation without having > any basis. That is the problem with American politics today. > > We need not even use any other example than our own country to determine > how > health care can be improved in America. That removes the differences > between attitudes, incompetencies, and mores from the equation. > > Some of us are old enough to have fought the battle in 1976 to have the > costs of dialysis treatment covered in the US. (Some of you may even recall > the famous Life article depicting the life and death committees that > determined who were entitled and who were refused the treatment.) The same > BS complaints existed (from the same political spectrum). Yes, there is a > problem- it only covers one disease. Yes, there is a problem, our > government is so panicked that the practitioners will steal from the system > that they spend almost $ 1 in "oversight" for every $ 1 in benefit. (THAT > IS THE TRUE ISSUE THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED BY THE PROPOSED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM > REFORM!!!!!). Yet, in some 30+ years, we have been able to treat Americans > to about the best dialysis care found anywhere. And, it is a single payer- > Medicare (once you have been on dialysis for about 9 months or so, no > private health insurance is involved). And, it is multi-provider. > > Please study facts- not half-hearted (or fully bloviated) opinion pieces > that have no clue how/why/where health care operates - here or elsewhere. > > Eschew Obfuscation > > This is a reply from: > Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. > Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services > for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization > > 703.548.1343 voice > 703.783.1340 fax > > > From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we > are YOUR adjuvancy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto: > computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] > On Behalf Of TPiwowar > Sent: 07/28/2009 11:10 AM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > > Absolutely wrong. There must always be choices. The customer must > > always have somewhere else to go when the service he is currently > > receiving is unsatisfactory. Single payer is tyranny. > > Single-payer systems typically include the opportunity for paying for > care privately. Single-payer does not mean single provider. Why do > the cons/neocons keep dragging in irrelevant boogeymen? It does not > help the discussion. > > When I broke my eyeglasses in London, even though I was an American, > I was offered "National Health" glasses or I could get a swanky pair. > I had the means to get a swanky pair so I did. I was also grateful to > have the choice of a pair for almost nothing should I have been in > poorer financial circumstances. > > > > > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* > ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
