On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 03:44, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Sonntag, 25. Mai 2003 23:46 schrieb Vincent Danen: > > On Sun May 25, 2003 at 11:35:27PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > > > I don't know about the cooker wiki... I don't think it's as well known > > > > as a place to put stuff, but you shouldn't dismiss it as a place where > > > > to put your document. Look at it this way... what difference does it > > > > make if you put it somewhere on your own personal space or on the wiki? > > > > All it does is make it more work for you to merge in other people's > > > > suggestions and changes. The same interest will still be there... you > > > > just have less work. > > > > > > Whereas i complety agree there is no real issue about where the document > > > lives exaclty, there is a big difference concerning visibility when using > > > a central node to at last referencing and organising all those documents. > > > > Exactly. Who cares where the document lives? The nature of the web > > dictates that we could put up a thousand links to it regardless of where it > > is... that isn't (or shouldn't be) the point at all. > > > > The point is, how much work to maintain it? It's no additional work for > > the author to use a wiki, even if they are only one maintaining it and no > > one, ever, contributes to it. > > > > however, on the off-chance that someone does want to contribute (or you get > > 100 people contributing), this could turn into a full-time job whereas on a > > wiki, they can make those changes themselves. > > > > *My* wiki (which is not the "Mandrake Community" wiki, but rather my online > > security reference manual (http://linsec.ca/)), is purely 100% maintained > > by myself. I love using a wiki for it. Even if no one ever contributes to > > it, the option is there. And for me, it's much nicer to manage it even if > > it's a solo show. > > > > I think wiki's are great. =) > > Yep agree and I want to add that the said was not true. There is not a big > hype in the beginnig and then nothing. A wiki has to reach a critical mass > for work as a self runner. On the OpenFacts wiki there were after all not > more then 2 people that worked on it. That was Sascha Noyes and me. Maybe > some small things from others. After some time it was not clear if we work > against the MandrakeClub since there was spoken about user contributed > Documentation too. After some time of no further knowledge if it is good what > we do at least I stopped to work on it. It was not a matter of missing > interest it is a matter of missing information. I don't know what happened to > Sascha, but I have not heard anything a long time from him. Plus all at all > it was a quick shot to begin with. After some time the cooker wiki has begun > on qa.mandrakesoft.com that oboletes parts of the OpenFacts wiki. The > expert-ML wiki obsoletes the openfacts wiki now totally, the only nice thing > it has that there is easy translation possible with the wikipedia wiki on > OpenFacts. What I disliked from beginning that it is not possible to change > something especially for mandrake on it since it is in wide parts very > similar to sourceforge and not mandrakespecific or user driven.
Best example I know of of critical mass is wikipedia... > > Beside the said above, it is simply not true that a wiki per definition > sleeps away. I for myself have some stuff on my disk I want to contribute, to > have it on a common place. > > Steffen > > >
