On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 14:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That was also my idea, but ok. IMHO "Gaim will someday post a 9.2 > > version of .70" is so very not te way to deal with this. > > Well, I am sure there will be a package in MandrakeClub, and probably very > soon on the free MandrakeClub mirrors, which are quite easy to install > from.
Once you have found the manual how to do that, indeed. > > I think users > > really should be able to upgrade during the install procedure. > > Upgrades aren't provided for stable releases. Security and bugfix updates > are. If this *really* qualifies as a bugfix release, then it will be > tested a bit in cooker, and then put up on the mirrors. > > But consider samba3 for a moment. You can't print to a Windows2003 server, > or connect to it with smbclient with samba-2.2.x. We have had samba3 > packaged in contrib since before 9.1 was released, and we(I) have done a > lot of testing of samba3, and 3.0.0 final was released 2 weeks ago. One big difference: MSN and Yahoo used to work in Gaim, they don't work anymore in 0.68. Yes, it is due to a protocol update, so it is not a bug of Gaim, just a lacking feature. But Gaim pretends that it can connect to Yahoo or MSN, so this is a bug in the eyes of any normal user. When I read your samba 2.2 manual, I (assume I) can't find a section "how to print on a Win 2k3 server", for Samba doesn't know Win 2k3 servers. > But it stays in contrib, since it was too late for the release schedule > (we were already in version freeze). > > So, users in networks with Windows2003 servers need to install > samba3-client from contrib, which will at least allow them to print and > connect with smbclient (they must use mount.cifs which is in main to mount > network shares) with minimal effort (by using alternatives). > > Those of you who depend on gaim could have made similar arrangements ... This is not a matter of depending on gaim, this is a matter of willing to prevent reviews from writing "Mandrake 9.2 is no good, it comes with broken software" Mandrake has a nice update feature during install, let's use it, instead of defining what a bugfix is. What is better ? A few extra kB of updates, or a broken distribution ? Jos