> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:00 +0100 (MET)
> "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> > > exported 
> > > symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference
> > > counting 
> > > (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies
> > > kernel must 
> > > include all IDE drivers :(
> > 
> > IIRC debian use it for ages
> > ( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
> > and the kernel becomes really small
> > 
> > with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
> > with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb
> > 
> > it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd 
> > & may be harddrake/ drakx
> > +++ include the debian patch
> 
> I wonder how they do it.
> Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .

yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6

2.6 patches uploaded
CA05-deb-modular_ide
DV20-deb-modular_vesafb
FC01-deb-cramfs_initrd

my changelog uploaded
CHANGES-2.6 

my current patch tarball is uploading 
linux-test9s5.tar.bz2

nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile 
under the same kernel :-)

url as always  http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/cook/2.6/

> > and if we go hacking mkinitrd, we make also add suport for cramfs
> >  
> > i'll upload it shortly to the usual place :-)
> 
> that would be great

done

> by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?

because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :(

> I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
> initrds.

could you add cramfs support ?-)

> 
> > ------------------------------------------
> > arent the following pretty important,
> > and alwasys needed ?
> > 
> > > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > > 
> > > module
> > > 
> > > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > > 
> > > module
> > ------------------------------------------
> > and what about ipv4
> 
> As I said in my other reply, I don't think these one should be build as
> modules.
> 
> > > > -CONFIG_ATM=y
> > > > -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> > > > -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> > > > +CONFIG_ATM=m
> > > > +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m
> > > 
> > > come on really, should everyone have ATM?
> > > 
> > 
> > and if only could tell me where it is ?-)
> 
> He's right, really, it isn't needed :)
> 
> >From make menuconfig :
> 
> ATM is a high-speed networking technology for Local Area Networks   
> and Wide Area Networks.  It uses a fixed packet size and is  
> connection oriented, allowing for the negotiation of minimum           
> bandwidth requirements.                                         
> In order to participate in an ATM network, your Linux box needs an     
> ATM networking card.

but how do i find the config option ?
i could find only the atm drivers :(
 
> > do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
> > IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted
> 
> How to auto detect the right module to load ?
> 

they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
(there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)

> > > it needs to be builtin only to have console support ... not sure
> > > actually how 
> > > widely it is used. those needing it to debug are likely to know how
> > > to recompile kernel.
> > 
> > you are probably right ;-)
> 
> probably, but some users may use it to recover a almost-crashed kernel,
> it is worse including it ? how many bytes is it ?

and these users will run not self compiled kernel ?
i'm not that sure :-)

best,

svetljo

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